Bush's Accomplishment and failure

George W. Bush's most significant accomplishment was getting re-elected. This was due to political forces outside of direct control rather than leadership. It demonstrated to Americans that most of them can be fooled most of the time.

George W. Bush's most considerable failure was causing his political party to lose control of the Congress during his second term. This was due to a failure in leadership rather than political forces outside of direct control. It demonstrated to Americans that just because they put someone in a leadership position doesn't mean the person will live up to it.

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Originally Posted by NoBoxes

George W. Bush's most significant accomplishment was getting re-elected. This was due to political forces outside of direct control rather than leadership. It demonstrated to Americans that most of them can be fooled most of the time.

See the newpaper entitled Move Over, Hoover in this post.

... we discussed whether George W. Bush is, conceivably, the worst U.S. president ever.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by NoBoxes

George W. Bush's most significant accomplishment was getting re-elected. This was due to political forces outside of direct control rather than leadership. It demonstrated to Americans that most of them can be fooled most of the time.

NoBoxes, you were almost right. You'd've been all the way right had you named the correct President: Clinton demonstrated most of the electorate can be fooled often enough. But what he and his were selling, I wasn't buying -- I was smart enough never to vote for that man.

[lookout123]

George W. Bush's most significant accomplishment was getting re-elected. This was due to political forces outside of direct control rather than leadership. It demonstrated to Americans that most of them can be fooled most of the time.

if by "outside of direct control" you mean "democrats failed to put forth a viable candidate", then yes you are correct. if the D's had run a candidate that was different from Bush in any positive, meaningful way he'd have run away with the race. instead americans were faced with an evil we know vs. evil we don't know race.

[yesman065]

Maybe thats why the "3rd" parties are growing so much in popularity. Too many people are disgusted with the far left and the far right without and "real" candidates to choose from. Perhaps if both parties were truly more interested in leading our country than stuffing their pockets, we'd have some tough decisions to make - like "Which of these is the better candidate?" I much prefer that to "Which one will eff up less?" I've been so disheartened by both the Republican and Democratic parties and their lapdogs that simply spew BS about how great or more idyllic their party is and how awful the other. Ours is by far the best nation on this planet (or any other) and it sickens me to know that those we entrust to lead it repeatedly disappoint and abuse the power we entrust them with.

[DanaC]

hang on....just for clarification, do you consider the Dems to be 'far left'?

[yesman065]

No, Dana they are the right wing -

[DanaC]

then who is the 'far left' that people are sick of?

[yesman065]

Originally Posted by DanaC

then who is the 'far left' that people are sick of?

The Republicans - of course. But as smart as you are, I know you could have figured that out by process of elimination.

[Clodfobble]

You've got it backwards, yesman. Dems/liberals are left, Reps/conservatives are right.

[yesman065]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

You've got it backwards, yesman. Dems/liberals are left, Reps/conservatives are right.

Gee really??? And I thought Dana was serious - I was only joking. We all know which extreme is which and that most of us fall somewhere in between.

[DanaC]

My point yesman, is not which side is which; but rather, which ones are the extreme left? I have yet to see any evidence of 'far left' politics in the current or recent mainstream political scene.

[xoxoxoBruce]

And hopefully you won't...far right either.

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Amazing how they have us arguing over a mythical political rope - hanging at both ends like a centenary. Myth puts highest points at an extreme left and extreme right. No wonder these extremists want gerrymandering.

Reality: a rope is hanging from a Ceiling where independents are at the top and where extremist Democrats and Republicans reside at the bottom end. Frayed rope at bottom contains the various ‘least intelligent’ politicians.

George Jr is nominated for the worst president ever (see Move Over, Hoover). This made obvious because a political agenda ("Americans don't do nation building", Saddam was involved in 11 Sept, anti-ballistic missile need, nuclear bunker busting bomb, war-time president, world wide terrorism, ‘god chose me as president’, Reagan proved that deficits don't matter, ‘god told me to attack Iraq’, etc) is more important that intelligent thought.

Rope hangs highest where intelligence resides - where decisions are made after first learning facts. The rope hangs low where intelligent thought would only confuse the brown shirts. Notice, to be intelligent, one must first do the work – learn facts – be educated – learn science – learn Military Science 101, etc. Low intelligence is a characteristic of extremist politicians who don’t even have sufficient brain power to climb that rope. To find intelligence, then find independents.

What did intelligent people recognize on 7 Nov 2006? That the president is wrong, a liar, and his war was lost years ago. Only intelligent people - those highest on the rope - could see that.

Who actually makes Congress work? Those who meet in that center aisle with their intelligent peers from the other party. Moderates mean higher intelligence - decisions based on facts and not based on political rhetoric.

The rope is not a centenary. Rope hangs from the roof where independents are up; political extremists are at the bottom.

Where on that rope do we find patriots? Obviously at the top because working for America is more important than working for the party. What are extremists doing - and deny? Extremists work first and foremost for the party (just like another party - communism); America be damned. To be a patriot, one must climb that rope.

We have a benchmark for where you exist on that rope. How long ago did you see “Mission Accomplished” was lost? How many times did you ask, “when are we going after bin Laden”.

[yesman065]

Originally Posted by DanaC

My point yesman, is not which side is which; but rather, which ones are the extreme left? I have yet to see any evidence of 'far left' politics in the current or recent mainstream political scene.

I was referring to the general disdain - not of anything specifically current, but I fully expect it to start soon after the inaugurations.