Gingrich raises alarm at free-speech dinner - Page 2

12-02-2006, 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Gingrich was speaking to a bunch of people gathered to honor champions of/for free speech and the article didn't mention the reaction of the attendees to his remarks? I find that piss poor (or bias) reporting.

I wondered about that too... but, it may be hard to "report" ten min. of stunned silence.

Urbane Guerrilla · 12-02-2006, 12:59 AM

Ben Franklin, Beestie: he of "A Republic -- if you can keep it."

Of course, we and a great deal of the rest of humanity -- and our cause is humanity's, as our foes are explicitly antidemocratic -- are much better off once we win this war. The particularly tricky part, I think, is how we'll know we have indeed won -- amorphous terrorist groups hardly have territory to defend, though their national sponsors do, nor capital cities. If anything but bigotry motivates our foes at bottom, I've yet to hear of it and to be convinced. I'm even less convinced that we should "take a hit" from such a lot of swinish fascists. Should they not suffer for their disenlightenment? Do we have to decapitate all the authoritarians or can we get the job done at a half or a third? I think it is the unfree, the slavemongers, who must tremble at our righteous wrath.

There are those who expect all our nation's troubles to originate from those parts of the world not meaningfully connected to the greater global economy: most of the continent of Africa and a considerable swatch of Araby; the Axis of Evil, and on a back burner places like the Transcaucasus. Note this sample includes a lot of Islamic countries.

wolf · 12-02-2006, 02:22 AM

Anybody have full text of the speech, rather than a bunch of cherry-picked quotes?

12-02-2006, 02:32 AM

I did, copy it quick before the Gov'ment gets it!

Quote:

Hello fellow Americans, coloreds, Jew-rodents and the rest of you waiting to burn after the rapture.
We have a brilliant road before us, laid down upon the backs of the less fortunate *coughracescough* and downtrodden little people who have given so much and, hopefully with Republican support, will continue to do so!
Soon, Jesus will come back and liberate this great nation that he made, kill all other nations except those who vote for us in the UN and the demon races and all will be well... I shall be president on that day. My wiener will work too!
CanIgeta'Amen?!
Oh, free speech is very bad... if you speak out against anything anyone is doing that seems like it make make things change, you are a dirty, rag-head-terrorist and should kill yourself.
Praise God and all his works... let's eat.

Wow... just...wow. It is like Churchill is back again, huh? Man, you don't hear stuff like that much any more!

12-02-2006, 12:21 PM

Far more people died because they were afraid to fly, post 9/11, due to increased travel on the roads, than in all terrorist attacks against the US combined, foreign soil included.

DanaC · 12-02-2006, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Thomas Jefferson, "Those who would sacrifice a little freedom for a little security will lose both and deserve neither."

12-02-2006, 03:22 PM

That was Benjamin Franklin.
Good quote and impulse though. (everything else is TJ)

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
~Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790), Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

Trilby · 12-02-2006, 04:17 PM

Ahh! We're doing quotes then? here's one:

I have found the paradox that if I love until it hurts, then there is no hurt, but only more love.

Author: Mother Teresa

Hippikos · 12-02-2006, 04:31 PM

It is easy to take liberty for granted, when you have never had it taken from you. ~ Dick Cheney

DanaC · 12-03-2006, 10:29 AM

That's funny. The site I quoted from attributed it to Jefferson and a slightly different verson of the same thing to Franklyn.....shows not to trust the internet :P

12-02-2006, 12:59 AM	#2
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Ben Franklin, Beestie: he of "A Republic -- if you can keep it." Of course, we and a great deal of the rest of humanity -- and our cause is humanity's, as our foes are explicitly antidemocratic -- are much better off once we win this war. The particularly tricky part, I think, is how we'll know we have indeed won -- amorphous terrorist groups hardly have territory to defend, though their national sponsors do, nor capital cities. If anything but bigotry motivates our foes at bottom, I've yet to hear of it and to be convinced. I'm even less convinced that we should "take a hit" from such a lot of swinish fascists. Should they not suffer for their disenlightenment? Do we have to decapitate all the authoritarians or can we get the job done at a half or a third? I think it is the unfree, the slavemongers, who must tremble at our righteous wrath. There are those who expect all our nation's troubles to originate from those parts of the world not meaningfully connected to the greater global economy: most of the continent of Africa and a considerable swatch of Araby; the Axis of Evil, and on a back burner places like the Transcaucasus. Note this sample includes a lot of Islamic countries. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course. Last edited by Urbane Guerrilla; 12-02-2006 at 01:02 AM.

12-02-2006, 02:22 AM	#3
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Anybody have full text of the speech, rather than a bunch of cherry-picked quotes? __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

12-02-2006, 04:17 PM	#8
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Ahh! We're doing quotes then? here's one: I have found the paradox that if I love until it hurts, then there is no hurt, but only more love. Author: Mother Teresa __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

12-02-2006, 04:31 PM	#9
Hippikos Flocci Non Facio Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In The Line Of Fire Posts: 571	It is easy to take liberty for granted, when you have never had it taken from you. ~ Dick Cheney __________________ Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it.

12-02-2006, 12:21 PM	#5
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Far more people died because they were afraid to fly, post 9/11, due to increased travel on the roads, than in all terrorist attacks against the US combined, foreign soil included.

12-02-2006, 03:22 PM	#7
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	That was Benjamin Franklin. Good quote and impulse though. (everything else is TJ) "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790), Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

12-03-2006, 10:29 AM	#10
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	That's funny. The site I quoted from attributed it to Jefferson and a slightly different verson of the same thing to Franklyn.....shows not to trust the internet :P

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