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Old 08-25-2006, 10:55 AM   #1
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huzzah for those bands. that still doesn't make the guy who downloads it for free my customer.
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Old 08-27-2006, 08:11 AM   #2
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huzzah for those bands. that still doesn't make the guy who downloads it for free my customer.
Nor the guy who buys or leases it. That guy is the recording company's customer. And when the record company decides to stop selling it, as they eventually do with 95% of material, there won't be any customers at all because it won't be available at any price.
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Old 08-25-2006, 04:01 PM   #3
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Does it if they buy your music? What if they buy it a few years later?

Back on topic... I think there would be problems if they medium was the same. DVD to DVD blank for instance. DVD -> iPod is probably legal enough.
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Old 08-25-2006, 04:08 PM   #4
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DVD -> iPod is probably legal enough.
Yes, but the people doing the suing can't even make up their mind about that... They've come out on both sides of the issue.
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Old 08-26-2006, 01:57 AM   #5
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Yes, but the people doing the suing can't even make up their mind about that... They've come out on both sides of the issue.
We're not lawyers but I would wager good money Circuit City either got the OK from legal or made an agreement to exempt what they are doing.
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Old 08-26-2006, 09:22 AM   #6
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We're not lawyers but I would wager good money Circuit City either got the OK from legal or made an agreement to exempt what they are doing.
Actually, it's probably like those disclaimers on photograph and document copying machines that place the responsiblity on the users to insure that it is legal for them to be copying the item.
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Old 08-26-2006, 10:09 AM   #7
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We're not lawyers but I would wager good money Circuit City either got the OK from legal or made an agreement to exempt what they are doing.
My point is that the AAs, the ones doing the suing, can't give a straight answer as to whether transfering a DVD to your iPod is something they think is okay or not. Meaning: at their discretion, they could decide to sue over this or not. It's up to circuit City is they want to skate on this thin ice or not, but the AAs have made it clear that pretty much anything you do, no matter how harmless, is fair game to them, in the face of all common sense.
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Old 08-26-2006, 10:18 AM   #8
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The thing that AA's really want to eliminate are the fair use and first sale doctrines. DRM's on downloaded songs technically violate 'first sale' doctrine, so I'm sure in the fine print somewhere is a note that you are 'leasing' and do not own, your iPod copy of the song.
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Old 08-26-2006, 07:11 PM   #9
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Would that be entrapment or enabling by Circuit City? I guess the moral is to do your copying in private (or at worst find the local nerd and pay him / her to do it).
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Old 08-27-2006, 12:24 AM   #10
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I don't use purchased cds in my car or walkman... I only use copies of cds I have purchased.
If a cd has copy blocking software on it I will not buy it, that artist does not want my money.
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Old 08-27-2006, 01:27 AM   #11
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I too have heard that.
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