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Old 08-07-2006, 12:47 PM   #1
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Historically? Yes.
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Old 08-07-2006, 04:10 PM   #2
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Historically? Yes.
Well, I knew that part. what about morally or ethically? Are we up to our own interpretaion of this? what happens when two libertarians don't agree upon points of dogma, do they just "duke it out"?

I'm not being sarcastic, I am very curious about the libertarian party especially since I despise all the other parties. I've only heard about libertarians in vague and innuendo ridden terms.

Where can I find out more?
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Old 08-07-2006, 04:24 PM   #3
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I am very curious about the libertarian party especially since I despise all the other parties.
I just vote for any third party. I don't even care what they stand for, I'm just opting out of the ping-pong game.
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Old 08-08-2006, 08:47 AM   #4
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So Libertarianism is another instance of "whoever has the biggest guns owns everything"?
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Old 08-08-2006, 11:49 AM   #5
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Does this theory include any capturing and ravishing of maidens?
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Old 08-08-2006, 01:22 PM   #6
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So Libertarianism is another instance of "whoever has the biggest guns owns everything"?
No. It's whomever has the biggest guns is the most secure in their honestly aquired property. Libertarians don't support imperialism, foreign military interventionism, or any other initiation of force, especially for political gain or social engineering.

If you've got enough guns, people can't take your land. If they've got more guns than you, chances are they can and there's nothing you can do about it.
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Old 08-08-2006, 01:44 PM   #7
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If you've got enough guns, people can't take your land. If they've got more guns than you, chances are they can and there's nothing you can do about it.
And then it's theirs.

So whoever has the biggest guns owns everything.
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Old 08-08-2006, 05:11 PM   #8
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And then it's theirs.

So whoever has the biggest guns owns everything.
Not necessarily so. There are lots of people who have less guns than the guy with the most guns, and they could combine their guns together to take down the guy with the most guns. This prevents any one person (or country) from having everything.

Power is constantly shifting.
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Old 08-08-2006, 07:40 AM   #9
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It's getting more and more complicated...
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Old 08-08-2006, 12:05 PM   #10
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I think Radar's original point has totally flipped over on its back and died like a cockroach.
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Old 08-08-2006, 01:29 PM   #11
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Maybe the conversation just took a horrible wrong turn somewhere?
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Old 08-08-2006, 04:02 PM   #12
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So instead of investing in a 401-K, I should be building a stockpile of black market assault rifles?
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Old 08-08-2006, 05:19 PM   #13
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So what youre saying is...

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...israel has the right to the land, but if the terrorists get powerful enough to take it then tough shit for israel?
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Old 08-08-2006, 06:51 PM   #14
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That's right. Has it ever been any other way?
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Old 08-08-2006, 07:57 PM   #15
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Pretty much.... though they'd have to have more guns than Israel and America which isn't likely since the U.S. military budget is larger than the next 20 largest military spenders combined. Israel is the 12th largest military spender.
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