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Old 04-06-2006, 08:52 AM   #1
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@mijsnomis: Isn't it funny that jochser's banned thread was rolling along just fine?
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Old 04-06-2006, 09:13 AM   #2
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I'm quite sure Joch wanted to banned, that it was inevitable that he be banned, and that he wanted to make a point about this forum by being banned. The point was that he didn't want any of us to get too comfortable in a forum that has censorship in place. Other than that, he was just being himself. We've had years to figure him out, and the people here could not be expected to have the time or take the interest to do that. You, I expect, they'll get used to.
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Old 04-06-2006, 03:45 PM   #3
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I'm quite sure Joch wanted to banned, that it was inevitable that he be banned, and that he wanted to make a point about this forum by being banned. The point was that he didn't want any of us to get too comfortable in a forum that has censorship in place.
If censorship means that I don't have to waste my time reading mindless pejorative drivel, great. Vive la censorship. I've used a lot of naughty words, written unpopular opinions and even levelled a few insults and unkind words at Cellarites in my time here, yet *never* have I been censored.

Who the hell is jochser to come in and give unsolicited censorship lessons? I don't need them. People who use online services make one critical error - they almost always assume that they can say and do anything they wish, but they can't...unless they own the service. Therefore, UT *can* say and do anything he wants. *I* cannot, and I accept this as a term of service here. If Jochser wants to conduct an Internet Freedom of PooPoo Speech course, let him/her/it damn well buy his/her/its own server and bandwidth, and go for it. Otherwise...piss off.
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Old 04-06-2006, 09:14 AM   #4
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Of course, of course, you make perfect sense as usual.
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Old 04-06-2006, 09:29 AM   #5
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Jochser rhymes with martyr?
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Old 04-06-2006, 09:34 AM   #6
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This place was founded in 1990, and it has had plenty of time to figure out lots of different usertypes, including the ones who feel it's important to take a big steaming crap all over the board to make the point that there is censorship. They come along every six months or so. It's nothing new.

AND the ones who feel compelled to defend people who take a big steaming crap all over the board. Seen them too. Watched them leave, waved goodbye, continued to have a nice forum with people who care deeply about it.

If you take a big steaming crap all over the board, you will be IP banned. If you stay long enough to care about the place, you will HOPE this happens.

You should see the private messages I'm getting, begging me to do it before, thanking me for it after!

We've had years to figure out what a good forum is, and you and your little snotty attitude are clearly not taking the time or the interest in what we are.

And LJ, wrong approach this time buddy, you made this harder this time...
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Old 04-06-2006, 02:49 PM   #7
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And LJ, wrong approach this time buddy, you made this harder this time...
what? harder for who? which approach? the sock puppets, or my being mean to them in a general sense?
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Old 04-06-2006, 09:35 AM   #8
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@barefoot serpent: Do you subscribe to Zappa's Church of American Secular Humanism (C.A.S.H.)?
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Old 04-06-2006, 11:03 AM   #9
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My favorite part is how we keep getting lectured about how "misunderstood" some of the AGers are - as if we're a bunch of goofballs who just don't get how special some of them are.

I don't mind newcomers but I don't need a month to figure out what is obvious after five minutes. Let the bodies pile up in the hallway if that's what it takes. The AGers who really want to be here will stay and the ones who are in love with the smell of their own adolescent farts will eventually crap their pants and leave.
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Old 04-06-2006, 11:22 AM   #10
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My favorite part is how we keep getting lectured
Who is lecturing who?

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I don't mind newcomers but I don't need a month to figure out what is obvious after five minutes
You must realize that statement could be interpreted as a snap-judgement based on limited data, compounded by the lack of a sense of humor, right?

It takes years to get to know someone, even in real life. On the internet all we have are these attempts at communication via text, which is not much to go on. Too many other factors invloved.
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Old 04-06-2006, 12:14 PM   #11
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You must realize that statement could be interpreted as a snap-judgement based on limited data
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Old 04-06-2006, 12:19 PM   #12
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Old 04-06-2006, 12:19 PM   #13
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Who is lecturing who?
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As was Jochser, by the way.
And that's just in this thread.
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Old 04-06-2006, 04:49 PM   #14
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It takes years to get to know someone, even in real life. On the internet all we have are these attempts at communication via text, which is not much to go on. Too many other factors invloved.
I disagree. The people here know me really well and I've only been here about two years. They give me sage advice and tell me things that i am too afraid to tell myself. You guys, you AGer's, are not interested in getting to know anyone or being known. Your main obsession seems to be to prove how very, very unique you all are. You are all fucking boring. And, yes, I have tried to like you.
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Old 04-07-2006, 12:24 AM   #15
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I disagree. The people here know me really well and I've only been here about two years. They give me sage advice and tell me things that i am too afraid to tell myself. You guys, you AGer's, are not interested in getting to know anyone or being known. Your main obsession seems to be to prove how very, very unique you all are. You are all fucking boring. And, yes, I have tried to like you.
Hello Brianna. Sage is great and effective like no other.
Its to be used when neccesary, and with specific AGer's, swiftly.
I have one problem with what you've stated above.
It's your generalization of AGer's.
I've been at AG for 7 years now, and although I've been posting beside a lot of users for many years, I've failed to meet them all on a conversational level. Yet I have quite a few which I have communicated with since the start. AGer's are not a group of like-minded people at all.
One of the reasons you got a few of the worst kinds here is because no other place would have them, or because they support a forum of their own and wish to infect any competitive sites with problems so that others will avoid and go to their creations.
Now I've stated before that there are plenty of class A people at AG that are either already here or that are looking in, contemplating entry.
This AGer bashing although it may seem just, is simply not, as others that respect the place enough to either watch before entering/posting to see how this place works will now be more hesitant than they should be.
You should welcome each and every user that comes in here wether they be from AG or somewhere else equally.
I despise more AGers than any of you, that's for sure, but also have grown attached to other AGers, and feel very privledged to have met them, as will you if you get a chance to meet them, but allow the door to be open for them. I see some have recently entered!
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