The search for meaning - Page 2

Trilby · 09-07-2005, 04:44 PM

i wish I knew what was worth it. It's all so confusing.

Maybe we should all simply follow our own hearts. People are people no matter where you go. Right? I only hope they are as good as I think they are.

I think they are.

Undertoad · 09-07-2005, 04:45 PM

People suck. Trust in yourself and your loved ones.

Trilby · 09-07-2005, 05:00 PM

It would be so cool if someone cared. Like having your childhood over. (assuming it was a good childhood)--I wish I were care-free. Skipping. Going home for lunch. What is hard? Mean spirits. Snide comments. Comparisons. I wish we were all free.
I feel very sad. Lots of bad stuff going on. Wish for release. Wish for health.

09-07-2005, 05:02 PM

The problem with people is that they won't stay in the nice compartments we long to slide them into. Good people do awful things. Frankl describes a dreaded Nazi Concentration Camp official who was captured by the Russians and ending up giving great solace and comfort to his fellow prisoners in Lubyanka.

Life has the meaning we ourselves give it - if we want it to HAVE meaning.

Yeah, I think most people ultimately share my same human response, but some people will fool you.

In the end, we all meet the same fate as that trilobite. What matters is how we LIVE, right this second. And THAT is up to as individuals.

Kagen4o4 · 09-07-2005, 06:35 PM

well marichiko for starters it doesnt snow here

. i dont really need to read books to see the logic involved when it comes to what humans are doing to the world and themselves. but i'm just an optimistic pessimist. i know bad things are going to happen but i think it all has a purpose and will be good in the end. i like to see meaning and purpose in things. i dont believe in god but i believe in existence as a whole.
humans are still at the "beginning" of their evolution so we wont know for a while how far our path can take us.

NovemberRain · 09-10-2005, 09:23 PM

I reached the conclusion long ago that life is essentially meaningless in and of itself and now accept that premise as fact. What separates me from the pessimist is, I've also decided that it doesn't matter that life has no meaning and have consequently stopped trying to find meaning in it or to ascribe meaning to it. So what keeps me going then? I suppose it's excessive curiosity more than anything else. I want to see whether the sum of all of my actions and their consequences, the long causal chain of events that is my life, will in the final analysis prove to have furthered the good or rather the evil. I do not consciously strive toward either.

09-10-2005, 10:31 PM

On my good days I strive toward what I understand to be the Good, and on my my bad days, I struggle merely to survive and wonder why the hell I'm bothering. If there's some ultimate purpose or meaning to life, no one has so far informed me of it. I see us as all in the same predicament. We are here briefly and we each have our own sorrows and joys. Too often, life brings us sorrow rather than joy. If I can look around and feel that some other human being's life has been touched by the good because of my existance, that's enough for me to keep soldiering on. If I ever reach the point where I feel that my being here has become a negative and I see no way that this will change, then I'll probably throw in my towel.

Kagen4o4 · 09-11-2005, 12:38 AM

there is no "right" side to be on, whether its good or evil. they are both just as necessary as each other. the main thing that is important is the balance between the two. true understanding can only be reached from seeing life from both sides.

NovemberRain · 09-11-2005, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kagen4o4

there is no "right" side to be on, whether its good or evil. they are both just as necessary as each other. the main thing that is important is the balance between the two. true understanding can only be reached from seeing life from both sides.

You know, I think that's why so many people are miserable. They insist on having the good without the bad and are invariably disappointed.

lheene · 09-13-2005, 09:28 PM

I read Frankl's book as well. For me, what gives my life meaning is the chance to LEARN SOMETHING NEW EVERYDAY. Nothing brings a smile to my face when I learn something new or discover something. That's my definition of living life to the fullest. So travel is very big with me

undone · 09-15-2005, 05:37 PM

for me, standing up for what I believe in has meaning. I want to continually evolve, change for the better. Whether it is finally dragging my fat ass to the gym or keeping my temper doing the buddist thing when some ass hat pisses me off. That is what I want to do. I love my friends and want to be with them in spirit and in thought. If someone calls at 3am I will unhappily drag myself from slumber and be glad for it when I finally hang up the phone. I love the enlightenment and connection that happens when I reach out to other people..like you guys.

SmartAZ · 09-23-2005, 06:16 AM

I have lived my entire life surrounded by jerks and fools.

I am determined to outlive the bastards!

gonzo_4_life15 · 09-29-2005, 11:14 AM

i plan to win the lottery and walk through the forests from town to town and eat breakfast at a small resturant then walk around the town meet new people, maybe go to the bar and buy drinks get a hotel room have a huge party where no one remembers anything and then walk to the next town with my credit card over some hills and through some valleys maybe go on a couple adventures who knows

09-29-2005, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonzo_4_life15

i plan to win the lottery and walk through the forests from town to town and eat breakfast at a small resturant then walk around the town meet new people, maybe go to the bar and buy drinks get a hotel room have a huge party where no one remembers anything and then walk to the next town with my credit card over some hills and through some valleys maybe go on a couple adventures who knows

Oh, to be that young and naive, again!

Well, maybe not.

Mystic Rythm · 10-18-2005, 05:09 AM

There is only one true meaning in every life that exists, and that meaning is 'moksha'. A puzzle whose key is to become the puzzle itself.

09-07-2005, 04:44 PM	#16
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	i wish I knew what was worth it. It's all so confusing. Maybe we should all simply follow our own hearts. People are people no matter where you go. Right? I only hope they are as good as I think they are. I think they are. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

09-07-2005, 05:00 PM	#18
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	It would be so cool if someone cared. Like having your childhood over. (assuming it was a good childhood)--I wish I were care-free. Skipping. Going home for lunch. What is hard? Mean spirits. Snide comments. Comparisons. I wish we were all free. I feel very sad. Lots of bad stuff going on. Wish for release. Wish for health. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

09-10-2005, 09:23 PM	#21
NovemberRain Don't Call Me Shirley Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 79	I reached the conclusion long ago that life is essentially meaningless in and of itself and now accept that premise as fact. What separates me from the pessimist is, I've also decided that it doesn't matter that life has no meaning and have consequently stopped trying to find meaning in it or to ascribe meaning to it. So what keeps me going then? I suppose it's excessive curiosity more than anything else. I want to see whether the sum of all of my actions and their consequences, the long causal chain of events that is my life, will in the final analysis prove to have furthered the good or rather the evil. I do not consciously strive toward either. __________________ "America is not a young land. She is very old. Before the white man, before the Indian, the evil was there, waiting." - William Burroughs, The Naked Lunch

09-15-2005, 05:37 PM	#26
undone work in progess Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 100	for me, standing up for what I believe in has meaning. I want to continually evolve, change for the better. Whether it is finally dragging my fat ass to the gym or keeping my temper doing the buddist thing when some ass hat pisses me off. That is what I want to do. I love my friends and want to be with them in spirit and in thought. If someone calls at 3am I will unhappily drag myself from slumber and be glad for it when I finally hang up the phone. I love the enlightenment and connection that happens when I reach out to other people..like you guys. __________________ If ignorance is bliss...Why aren't more people happy?

09-07-2005, 04:45 PM	#17
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	People suck. Trust in yourself and your loved ones.

09-07-2005, 05:02 PM	#19
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	The problem with people is that they won't stay in the nice compartments we long to slide them into. Good people do awful things. Frankl describes a dreaded Nazi Concentration Camp official who was captured by the Russians and ending up giving great solace and comfort to his fellow prisoners in Lubyanka. Life has the meaning we ourselves give it - if we want it to HAVE meaning. Yeah, I think most people ultimately share my same human response, but some people will fool you. In the end, we all meet the same fate as that trilobite. What matters is how we LIVE, right this second. And THAT is up to as individuals.

09-07-2005, 06:35 PM	#20
Kagen4o4 The Sheriff of Nothingland Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Melbourne, Aus Posts: 1,794	well marichiko for starters it doesnt snow here . i dont really need to read books to see the logic involved when it comes to what humans are doing to the world and themselves. but i'm just an optimistic pessimist. i know bad things are going to happen but i think it all has a purpose and will be good in the end. i like to see meaning and purpose in things. i dont believe in god but i believe in existence as a whole. humans are still at the "beginning" of their evolution so we wont know for a while how far our path can take us.

09-10-2005, 10:31 PM	#22
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	On my good days I strive toward what I understand to be the Good, and on my my bad days, I struggle merely to survive and wonder why the hell I'm bothering. If there's some ultimate purpose or meaning to life, no one has so far informed me of it. I see us as all in the same predicament. We are here briefly and we each have our own sorrows and joys. Too often, life brings us sorrow rather than joy. If I can look around and feel that some other human being's life has been touched by the good because of my existance, that's enough for me to keep soldiering on. If I ever reach the point where I feel that my being here has become a negative and I see no way that this will change, then I'll probably throw in my towel.

09-11-2005, 12:38 AM	#23
Kagen4o4 The Sheriff of Nothingland Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Melbourne, Aus Posts: 1,794	there is no "right" side to be on, whether its good or evil. they are both just as necessary as each other. the main thing that is important is the balance between the two. true understanding can only be reached from seeing life from both sides.

09-13-2005, 09:28 PM	#25
lheene Resident Denizen Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 60	I read Frankl's book as well. For me, what gives my life meaning is the chance to LEARN SOMETHING NEW EVERYDAY. Nothing brings a smile to my face when I learn something new or discover something. That's my definition of living life to the fullest. So travel is very big with me

09-23-2005, 06:16 AM	#27
SmartAZ Confounded Conjuror Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 33	I have lived my entire life surrounded by jerks and fools. I am determined to outlive the bastards!

09-29-2005, 11:14 AM	#28
gonzo_4_life15 im just a hard working patriotic north american like urself Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: little house onthe prarie Posts: 41	i plan to win the lottery and walk through the forests from town to town and eat breakfast at a small resturant then walk around the town meet new people, maybe go to the bar and buy drinks get a hotel room have a huge party where no one remembers anything and then walk to the next town with my credit card over some hills and through some valleys maybe go on a couple adventures who knows

10-18-2005, 05:09 AM	#30
Mystic Rythm Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 49	There is only one true meaning in every life that exists, and that meaning is 'moksha'. A puzzle whose key is to become the puzzle itself.

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