John Kerry taking dubious page from Howard Dean's book - Page 2

MaggieL · 11-01-2006, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Glad you agree.

You're so driven to find validation you often see it when it isn't there. This isn't the first time.

Kerry's statement was already political, and it was only twisted by his handlers. It's his claim that the Republicans have politicized it, and he's not kidding.

As far as we can tell, anyway. Or maybe he's joking again. Hard to tell.

Spexxvet · 11-01-2006, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL

No, that's not what he said. That's what his handlers said they told him to say, after the fact.

MaggieL knows all, sees all....

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Originally Posted by MaggieL

At least when Dubya mangles things most people can tell what he meant to say.

really?

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"I think -- tide turning -- see, as I remember -- I was raised in the desert, but tides kind of -- it's easy to see a tide turn -- did I say those words?" --George W. Bush, asked if the tide was turning in Iraq, Washington, D.C., June 14, 2006

Translate for me, please.

Spexxvet · 11-01-2006, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL

You're so driven to find validation you often see it when it isn't there. This isn't the first time.

Kerry's statement was already political, and it was only twisted by his handlers. It's his claim that the Republicans have politicized it, and he's not kidding.

As far as we can tell, anyway. Or maybe he's joking again. Hard to tell.

That's what I said. Are you going way out of your way to pick a fight?

glatt · 11-01-2006, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Translate for me, please.

Shit, that's easy. He's saying:
"The tide is turning so much in Iraq that even a desert boy like me can see it.

Radar · 11-01-2006, 10:23 AM

Maggie, stop being a Bush apologist. Bush is the single worst scumbag to ever befoul the oval office. He is guilty of treason, and he's a military deserter.

Each and every word Kerry said was the truth, and a jerk like Bush isn't worthy to question comments about the military made by a decorated combat veteran and neither are you.

Those who join the military tend to be less educated. This isn't an opinion, it's a fact. Smart people don't sign up to get shot at in an unconstitutional, unwarranted, and unprovoked war in which nobody is defending America and everyone taking part has violated their oath.

MaggieL · 11-01-2006, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar

Each and every word Kerry said was the truth...

So why is he respinning it? Can't have it both ways. Either he really meant it or he was misunderstood.

MaggieL · 11-01-2006, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Translate for me, please.

I wouldn't dream of it. I can't get you to read, how could I get you to listen?

Besides, I said "most people". That doesn't include you.

Spexxvet · 11-01-2006, 11:08 AM

You mean like "this administration will stay the course" and "this adminiistration has never been stay the course"?

MaggieL · 11-01-2006, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar

Those who join the military tend to be less educated. This isn't an opinion, it's a fact.

And people who vote Big-L tend to be more educated too. But it doesn't make them smarter.

The funniest thing about the embroglio may be Kerry conflating academic success with intelligence. Especially given his record as an undergrad.

MaggieL · 11-01-2006, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar

Each and every word Kerry said was the truth, and a jerk like Bush isn't worthy to question comments about the military made by a decorated combat veteran and neither are you.

Kerry's not decorated anymore, he gave them back.

Radar · 11-01-2006, 11:25 AM

He was decorated. Tossing the medals does not mean you weren't decorated. Kerry didn't respin anything, he tried to stop the Bush administration from doing the spinning. Kerry said it the second time the same way he did the first. He has more honor, integrity, honesty, and character than the entire Bush administration combined.

Bush is a disgrace to the office, and to all Americans. He should be tried and executed for the treason he's openly admitted to.

Kerry at his very worst is a better man than Bush at his very best.

MaggieL · 11-01-2006, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar

Kerry said it the second time the same way he did the first.

What he actually said and what his handlers said he was supposed to say are *not* the same thing.

I caught Kerry's act the first time around in the 1970's...and he hasn't improved since then.

Happy Monkey · 11-01-2006, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GWB

Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.

I'd like to see the Bush supporters try to spin this one.

Elspode · 11-01-2006, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL

I guess Yale didn't make Kerry all that damn smart....he ended up getting stuck in Vietnam. ;-)

And Bush managed to avoid it, *and* become President, thus proving that serving your country makes you stupid no matter how you slice it.

*NOTE* This is not intended as a slight to any of the wonderful people who serve their country. This is intended as a slight to moron politicians.

yesman065 · 11-01-2006, 01:51 PM

From drudgereport.com

VIDEO: KERRY WARNS STUDENTS: EDUCATE YOURSELF, OR YOU'LL GET STUCK IN IRAQ...

VIDEO: BUSH: KERRY COMMENTS 'INSULTING AND SHAMEFUL'...
Iowa candidate asks Kerry to cancel visit...

*Kerry Pulls Out Of Minnesota Appearance...
**No Casey/Kerry In Philly...
TN - Harold Ford asks Kerry to apologize...
McCaskill in Mo. Asks, Too...
MORE DEMS PILE ON...
VIDEO: IMUS TO KERRY: 'Please stop it. Stop talking. Go home, get on the bike'...

11-01-2006, 10:23 AM	#20
Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	Maggie, stop being a Bush apologist. Bush is the single worst scumbag to ever befoul the oval office. He is guilty of treason, and he's a military deserter. Each and every word Kerry said was the truth, and a jerk like Bush isn't worthy to question comments about the military made by a decorated combat veteran and neither are you. Those who join the military tend to be less educated. This isn't an opinion, it's a fact. Smart people don't sign up to get shot at in an unconstitutional, unwarranted, and unprovoked war in which nobody is defending America and everyone taking part has violated their oath. __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin

11-01-2006, 11:08 AM	#23
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	You mean like "this administration will stay the course" and "this adminiistration has never been stay the course"? __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

11-01-2006, 11:25 AM	#26
Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	He was decorated. Tossing the medals does not mean you weren't decorated. Kerry didn't respin anything, he tried to stop the Bush administration from doing the spinning. Kerry said it the second time the same way he did the first. He has more honor, integrity, honesty, and character than the entire Bush administration combined. Bush is a disgrace to the office, and to all Americans. He should be tried and executed for the treason he's openly admitted to. Kerry at his very worst is a better man than Bush at his very best. __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin

11-01-2006, 01:51 PM	#30
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	From drudgereport.com VIDEO: KERRY WARNS STUDENTS: EDUCATE YOURSELF, OR YOU'LL GET STUCK IN IRAQ... VIDEO: BUSH: KERRY COMMENTS 'INSULTING AND SHAMEFUL'... Iowa candidate asks Kerry to cancel visit... Kerry Pulls Out Of Minnesota Appearance... *No Casey/Kerry In Philly... TN - Harold Ford asks Kerry to apologize... McCaskill in Mo. Asks, Too... MORE DEMS PILE ON... VIDEO: IMUS TO KERRY: 'Please stop it. Stop talking. Go home, get on the bike'...

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