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Old 08-18-2003, 04:06 PM   #16
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She can go to hell, as far as I'm concerned.
Whoa dude. Why such venom? I thought you were in favor of free enterprise, supply and demand, the American way.
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Old 08-19-2003, 09:01 AM   #17
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Without going into a lot of detail, I tried to help her, and she wound up ripping off my Bonneville SSEi, my Golden Retriever and ruining my life.

Thus the venom.

That said, I know several professional wimmin in the Phila area who are in that line of work and they are all nice people, albeit a tad foolish, IMO. I can think of one who has all her clients at her HOME. I wouldn't want every pervert in town knowig where I live and have told her so, and all she says is that she's never had a problem. "Until the first time" say I.

But that's me.

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Old 08-19-2003, 11:32 AM   #18
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Brian, your dog? Now that's low.
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Old 08-19-2003, 03:02 PM   #19
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Old 08-20-2003, 10:33 AM   #20
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Says in the article they arrested this woman for prostitution. Now, I've lead far too sheltered a life to be up on the S&M scene, but I was under the impression that these places offered pretty much everything BUT actual intercourse?

Oh, and Pure -- the third mistress ("Lady Gwen Severe") in your second link is also a customer, right? (or are all of them?)
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Old 08-20-2003, 06:45 PM   #21
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Oh, and Pure -- the third mistress ("Lady Gwen Severe") in your second link is also a customer, right? (or are all of them?)
Seems to me these are employees of the transformation studio in Boston -- not related to the place in the Wolf's article, which is in the Phila area. The "links" page on this site leads to some pretty unusual (well, for me, anyway) stuff. My favorite was this one
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Old 08-21-2003, 07:54 AM   #22
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Heck, you can contact me privately about that kind of stuff.

I make it for the mass market in my woodshop. I usually do custom orders but I have some off-the-shelf pieces too.

I also have a list of links for friends who make stuff that I do not (I cannot weld yet).

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Old 08-21-2003, 05:50 PM   #23
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Old 08-21-2003, 10:23 PM   #24
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The amusing thing here is, if this were in the right part of the right state, no one would care. But, according to the second link, it's evil and bad, all because it's not in the right zoning district.

It is to laugh.

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Old 08-22-2003, 07:31 AM   #25
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Quzah, that's not quite true. You see, running an S&M parlor, no matter where in the Commonwealth of Penna, is illegal. Case law is on record and Nelson herself has set at least two earlier precedents. In two counties. In two years.

And the more she does this, the more precedents will be set and the further back the leather community will go. I therefore wonder when some people will just get together and either run her out of the Commonwealth or just string her up. Not that I advocate violence, mind you, but she has done more than one one individual or group to undermine the fight for freedom from persecution the leather crowd has been fighting for thirty years. The whips and welts people were getting close with several fetish-friendly nightclubs and events, stores that cater to people who wear lots of dead cow, and other positive things, but Michelene Nelson has undone much of that good work with her consistantly negative portrayal (not to mention her betrayal of friends) of S&M.

I can only hope this time she is sentenced to prison both to set an example as well as to remove her from the news headlines so the rest of the leather community can get on with the business of making up for her shortcomings and when she is released, she goes to some other state to ply her trade. New York City seems more tolerant of her line of work than Philadelphia is. It's not quite far enough away for me. Hong Kong wqould be better in that regard, but my opinion is not relevant to the proceedings. As usual.

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Old 08-22-2003, 08:21 AM   #26
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Quzah, that's not quite true. You see, running an S&M parlor, no matter where in the Commonwealth of Penna, is illegal. Case law is on record and Nelson herself has set at least two earlier precedents. In two counties. In two years.
That's why I said in the right part of the right state. Meaning Nevada. :P

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Old 08-24-2003, 06:34 AM   #27
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The amusing thing here is...It is to laugh. Quzah.
I wasn't quite sure if I wanted to get in on this conversation, but I couldn't resist a couple of comments.....(NOT directed at you Quzah, but in general)

After visiting the Dungeon Crafts site (link provided by 99), the amusing thing I find here is their emphasis on the "safety" of their suspension devices and the "comfort" of their whipping benches.

As far as "watersports" and "golden nectar".........what ever happened to water-skiing and a beer?
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