Harry Potter 7! - Page 2

xoxoxoBruce · 05-31-2007, 11:25 AM

Why the UK paperback, are you leaving?

Sundae · 05-31-2007, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Why the UK paperback, are you leaving?

She may be a purist - changes are made to the American version.

Three of us ordered at work today - the combined cost meant free postage on Amazon and it was discounted to £8.99. It wasn't until afterwards I realised it's released JULY 21 not JUNE 21. For some reason, although I have seen the date on every advert and poster, I got it in my head it was this month. So in fact I am now going to have to wait for it to be posted from here to London

Dagney · 05-31-2007, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

OK, if you say so, I'll take it back. reneen reneen reneen

But I remember someone saying it hadn't come. Maybe it was Dagney?

It may have been me, but it's been so long, I forget.

Hopefully whomever it was, got their book already!

be-bop · 05-31-2007, 05:31 PM

I don't get Harry Potter it's very "Famous Five" Jolly good show what
So twee ...

piercehawkeye45 · 05-31-2007, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

If I'm there I'll taze em' in tha' nuts or tha' cooch, I promise.

Videotape it. I want to watch them squeal like a little piggy.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-31-2007, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by be-bop

I don't get Harry Potter it's very "Famous Five" Jolly good show what
So twee ...

I think it was when the second book was out, a high school teacher friend asked if I'd read them. I sort of scoffed, that's a kids book, but she told me they were well written and great fun to read. She was right. Great books to read just for the fun of it.

Cloud · 05-31-2007, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

The day it's released, I will stop at the local Pathmark supermarket, where there will be large stacks at about 2/3 the price.
It's worked every time.

yeah. Last time Target had it cheaper than anywhere. Not hard to find at all.

melidasaur · 06-01-2007, 03:00 PM

I got book 6 at walmart the night of the release for about 11.50. No need to pre-order, but we will probably need to get two copies.

Is the release in June or July? I am so confused.

Urbane Guerrilla · 06-02-2007, 04:35 AM

When I noticed, about Book Four, that my rereadings of HP were catching up to my rereadings of LOTR, I knew that here was literature. Kid literature, but literature nonetheless.

Sundae · 06-04-2007, 11:57 AM

I've borrowed The Half Blood Prince to catch up (I cant find mine

) and the more I think about it, the more it seems likely to me that Snape isn't as black as he's painted.

I mean, yes he's mean spirited, has no innate sense of justice, has a big chip on his greasy shoulders and is eaten up with hate and bitterness... but who isn't, eh?

The book starts with Fudge's visit to the Prime Minister - an introduction that tells us where and when we are and advances the story by letting us know that Voldemort is wreaking havoc even amongst the Muggles - he is truly back and the world is beginning to feel it. However the second section is that featuring the Lestrange sisters' visit to Snape and him taking an Unbreakable Vow to complete Draco's task if the boy fails. The task turns out to be killing Dumbledore - so Snape couldn't do anything else at that point - it was kill Dumbledore or die, Malfoy had already failed.

However the question has to be, why did Snape agree to make the vow? He had already settled Bellatrix's mind, and with Lucius in Azkaban he hardly need worry about Narcissa's opinion of him - she is married to a failure who has displeased Voldemort. I think he must have had a very good reason to cut himself off from a comfortable life to go back to being a fugitive in a dangerous, back stabbing, tyrannical gang.

I do think putting the episode at the beginning of the book marks its importance, not just its chronological order (many things are told in flashback and by hearsay after all). Apart from anything else it makes it easy to find when the next book turns our assumptions on their heads.

Iggy · 06-07-2007, 12:58 PM

It is July 21st. The movie comes out July 11th.

For the book:
* Release date (US/UK/English-speaking countries): July 21st, 2007
* Page count: 784 (US), 608 (UK)
* Price: 34.99 (USD), 17.99 (GBP)
* Deluxe Edition Price: 65 (USD)
* Pre-order now from Borders!

Flint · 06-07-2007, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

...I noticed, about Book Four, that my rereadings of HP were catching up to my rereadings of LOTR...

As the old punchline goes: "I wouldn'a told that!" (Do y'all know some variation of this joke?)

Urbane Guerrilla · 06-08-2007, 11:20 AM

Hey, I'm fannish -- the workaday world isn't quite enough for my kind of spirit.

Cloud · 06-10-2007, 11:55 AM

Here is a list of loose ends supposedly to be tied up by the last book. There are a HELL of a lot of them! Talk about authorial pressure, whew!

(ganked from Muggle.Net, thanks):

--Will Hogwarts reopen? And, if so, will Harry, Ron, and Hermione attend for their seventh year?
--Is Snape good or evil? Where do his loyalties lie?
--What is the significance of Harry having his mother's eyes?
--What caused Dumbledore trust Snape so much?
--Why was Voldemort going to allow Lily to live after he killed James at Godric's Hollow?
--Who is R.A.B.?
--Are Dumbledore and Sirius actually dead? Update: JKR confirmed in New York that Dumbledore is in fact dead - but we still don't know about Sirius!
--What "worst memory" did Dudley experience when he was attacked by dementors in Order of the Phoenix?
--Where are the remaining Horcruxes? And furthermore, was Dumbledore right about what the remaining Horcruxes are? If he wasn't, what are they?
--Who will lead the Order now that Dumbledore is dead?
--Is Bill Weasley a full werewolf?
--Did Voldemort go to Godric's Hollow alone the night he tried to kill Harry? If so, how do people know the events of that night?
--Will the two-way mirror that Sirius gave to Harry come up again?
--Is the relationship between Ginny and Harry really over? Will they get back together in the end?
--What was the "gleam of triumph" in Dumbledore's eyes at the end of Goblet of Fire?
--Is there more behind Voldemort wanting the DADA teaching position so badly, or is it just because he simply wanted the job?
--How will Peter Pettigrew repay his life debt to Harry?
--What lies beyond the veil in the Department of Mysteries?
--If Dumbledore and Petunia were in contact before Harry was taken to Privet Drive, then what were they discussing in their letters?
--Who was "that awful boy" who Petunia referred to in OOTP? Was it James, or was it somebody else?
--Will Ron and Hermione's relationship finally come to be, or will something happen to prevent it?
--What were Lily and James' occupations?
--Will Dumbledore's portrait be of any use to Harry?
--What will Percy do now that the Ministry has been proven wrong and Dumbledore is dead? Will he return to his family?
--Where did Fawkes go at the end of Half-Blood Prince?
--What did Dumbledore see or experience after he drank the potion in the cave in HBP?
--How exactly did the Potters and the Longbottoms "thrice defy Voldemort"?
--Will the terms of the Prophecy be fulfilled? If so, will Harry kill Voldemort, or will Voldemort kill Harry?
--On her website, JKR stated that "there IS a significant - even crucial - answer" to the following question: How and why did Dumbledore have James' invisibility cloak? What is the significance of this?
--What happened to Ollivander? And since there was no sign of a struggle when he disappeared, whose side is he on? And what about Florean Fortescue - are their disappearances linked?
--Will Ron and Harry pass their Apparation tests?
--What about Dumbledore's family? (JKR said in her interview with MuggleNet/TLC that Dumbledore's family would be a "profitable line of inquiry.")
--If Voldemort lost his body at Godric's Hollow, then who retrieved his wand?
--What's behind the locked door in the Department of Mysteries?
--Why did Regulus choose to leave the Death Eaters?
--Will we learn any more about Dumbledore's brother Aberforth? Will he have an important role to play in the book?
--What happened to Dumbledore's wand after his death?
--Who will reinstate the protective barriers around Hogwarts that Dumbledore removed so he and Harry could fly to the tower? Not just anybody could have taken them down or Hogwarts would be constantly attacked. Is Dumbledore the only one who knew how to perform those charms?
--How did Dumbledore know the details of Lord Voldemort's murder of Lily - how LV offered to spare her life and how the charm that protects Harry was formed - if no one else was there to witness it? Was Dumbledore actually there to witness it?
--What happened in the period of time between baby Harry's rescue from the ruins of Godric's Hollow and being left the NEXT DAY at the Dursley's doorstep?
--What were Dumbledore and Snape arguing about that Hagrid overheard at the edge of the forest in HBP? Was it about spying on Draco, or was it something else?
--Where did Snape and Draco go at the end of the sixth book?
--In Chamber of Secrets, Lockhart says that he transformed a werewolf back into a man using the "immensely complex Homorphus Charm." Now we know that Lockhart didn't actually do this, but he did steal the story from another wizard. So, is there a way to cure Lupin?
--Will the giants and goblins take a firmer position about the war? Will they ever choose a side?
--Are we going to see SPEW again? Will the house-elves' rights be improved by the end of the series? And what will become of all of the house-elves that we know so far in the series? Thanks, Roque and Mary Pat
--What happened to Sirius's motorbike while he was in Azkaban? And where is the motorbike now?
--Do we know the whole story behind Dumbledore's hand injury in HBP?
--Assuming Hogwarts stays open, will the curse that Voldemort presumably placed on the DADA position ever be lifted?
--What are the twelve uses of dragon's blood that Dumbledore discovered? Will these discoveries be important to the story in any way?
--Who helped R.A.B. retrieve the locket from the cave? (Dumbledore made it clear that two people were needed to get past Voldemort's enchantments.) And where is the locket now?
--What significance is the fact that Mundungus Fletcher has been stealing things from Grimmauld Place going to have to the plot of the next book? Did he take the locket from Grimmauld Place, and if so, who did he sell it to? Will Mundungus be playing an important part in the next book?
--JKR said that someone will manage magic very late in life in Book 7: who will it be? Filch, perhaps?
--Did Dumbledore have a will or anything equivalent to a will?
--When Snape is about to kill Dumbledore, Dumbledore says, "Severus... Please..." Was Dumbledore asking Snape to kill him or was he asking for mercy?
--What was the potion that Dumbledore had to drink in the cave?
--How did Dumbledore become such an "extraordinary magic user, even at a young age" (a quote from an OWL examiner in OOTP)? Was it just study and hard work, or is there something different about him?
--How will Harry find his parents' home in Godric's Hollow? After all, Wormtail is the secret-keeper, and as far as we know, the only way to find the home would be for Wormtail to tell Harry its location.
--Do we know the full reason that Voldemort decided to try to kill Harry instead of Neville?
--How did Hagrid retrieve Harry from the ruins of his parents' house if he was not told the location by the secret-keeper?
--Now that Dumbledore is dead, who is the secret-keeper of the Order of the Phoenix? Is the spell broken?
--Is there more to the curtain that Sirius fell through in Order of the Phoenix?
--Where did the Potter family's wealth come from?
--Why did Dumbledore give Snape the DADA job if Dumbledore suspected there was a jinx on the position?
--Will Voldemort be angry that Snape killed Dumbledore rather than allowing Draco to do it himself?
--What truly determines whether or not someone becomes a ghost? Is there more to it than what Nearly Headless Nick said there was?
--When Dumbledore is explaining to the Dursleys that the magic protecting Harry will cease to operate on his 17th birthday, each of the Dursleys reactions are given, and the book says that Aunt Petunia "was oddly flushed." What is the significance of her reaction? Does she know something more? Thanks, Kathy

freshnesschronic · 06-10-2007, 02:19 PM

Good job Cloud. >

You've made me obsessed with Harry Potter again.

Now I have to split my forum times with the Cellar and www.thesnitch.net.

05-31-2007, 11:25 AM	#16
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Why the UK paperback, are you leaving? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-01-2007, 03:00 PM	#23
melidasaur Traded your soul for pogs. Join Date: May 2004 Location: Champaign, IL Posts: 646	I got book 6 at walmart the night of the release for about 11.50. No need to pre-order, but we will probably need to get two copies. Is the release in June or July? I am so confused. __________________ I love England, what can I say?

06-02-2007, 04:35 AM	#24
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	When I noticed, about Book Four, that my rereadings of HP were catching up to my rereadings of LOTR, I knew that here was literature. Kid literature, but literature nonetheless. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

06-04-2007, 11:57 AM	#25
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	I've borrowed The Half Blood Prince to catch up (I cant find mine ) and the more I think about it, the more it seems likely to me that Snape isn't as black as he's painted. I mean, yes he's mean spirited, has no innate sense of justice, has a big chip on his greasy shoulders and is eaten up with hate and bitterness... but who isn't, eh? The book starts with Fudge's visit to the Prime Minister - an introduction that tells us where and when we are and advances the story by letting us know that Voldemort is wreaking havoc even amongst the Muggles - he is truly back and the world is beginning to feel it. However the second section is that featuring the Lestrange sisters' visit to Snape and him taking an Unbreakable Vow to complete Draco's task if the boy fails. The task turns out to be killing Dumbledore - so Snape couldn't do anything else at that point - it was kill Dumbledore or die, Malfoy had already failed. However the question has to be, why did Snape agree to make the vow? He had already settled Bellatrix's mind, and with Lucius in Azkaban he hardly need worry about Narcissa's opinion of him - she is married to a failure who has displeased Voldemort. I think he must have had a very good reason to cut himself off from a comfortable life to go back to being a fugitive in a dangerous, back stabbing, tyrannical gang. I do think putting the episode at the beginning of the book marks its importance, not just its chronological order (many things are told in flashback and by hearsay after all). Apart from anything else it makes it easy to find when the next book turns our assumptions on their heads. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

06-07-2007, 12:58 PM	#26
Iggy Back and ready to tart up the place Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 850	It is July 21st. The movie comes out July 11th. For the book: * Release date (US/UK/English-speaking countries): July 21st, 2007 * Page count: 784 (US), 608 (UK) * Price: 34.99 (USD), 17.99 (GBP) * Deluxe Edition Price: 65 (USD) * Pre-order now from Borders! __________________ Chock-full of naughty goodness.

05-31-2007, 05:31 PM	#19
be-bop Operations Operative Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: scotland/uk Posts: 664	I don't get Harry Potter it's very "Famous Five" Jolly good show what So twee ...

06-08-2007, 11:20 AM	#28
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Hey, I'm fannish -- the workaday world isn't quite enough for my kind of spirit. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

06-10-2007, 11:55 AM	#29
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	Here is a list of loose ends supposedly to be tied up by the last book. There are a HELL of a lot of them! Talk about authorial pressure, whew! (ganked from Muggle.Net, thanks): --Will Hogwarts reopen? And, if so, will Harry, Ron, and Hermione attend for their seventh year? --Is Snape good or evil? Where do his loyalties lie? --What is the significance of Harry having his mother's eyes? --What caused Dumbledore trust Snape so much? --Why was Voldemort going to allow Lily to live after he killed James at Godric's Hollow? --Who is R.A.B.? --Are Dumbledore and Sirius actually dead? Update: JKR confirmed in New York that Dumbledore is in fact dead - but we still don't know about Sirius! --What "worst memory" did Dudley experience when he was attacked by dementors in Order of the Phoenix? --Where are the remaining Horcruxes? And furthermore, was Dumbledore right about what the remaining Horcruxes are? If he wasn't, what are they? --Who will lead the Order now that Dumbledore is dead? --Is Bill Weasley a full werewolf? --Did Voldemort go to Godric's Hollow alone the night he tried to kill Harry? If so, how do people know the events of that night? --Will the two-way mirror that Sirius gave to Harry come up again? --Is the relationship between Ginny and Harry really over? Will they get back together in the end? --What was the "gleam of triumph" in Dumbledore's eyes at the end of Goblet of Fire? --Is there more behind Voldemort wanting the DADA teaching position so badly, or is it just because he simply wanted the job? --How will Peter Pettigrew repay his life debt to Harry? --What lies beyond the veil in the Department of Mysteries? --If Dumbledore and Petunia were in contact before Harry was taken to Privet Drive, then what were they discussing in their letters? --Who was "that awful boy" who Petunia referred to in OOTP? Was it James, or was it somebody else? --Will Ron and Hermione's relationship finally come to be, or will something happen to prevent it? --What were Lily and James' occupations? --Will Dumbledore's portrait be of any use to Harry? --What will Percy do now that the Ministry has been proven wrong and Dumbledore is dead? Will he return to his family? --Where did Fawkes go at the end of Half-Blood Prince? --What did Dumbledore see or experience after he drank the potion in the cave in HBP? --How exactly did the Potters and the Longbottoms "thrice defy Voldemort"? --Will the terms of the Prophecy be fulfilled? If so, will Harry kill Voldemort, or will Voldemort kill Harry? --On her website, JKR stated that "there IS a significant - even crucial - answer" to the following question: How and why did Dumbledore have James' invisibility cloak? What is the significance of this? --What happened to Ollivander? And since there was no sign of a struggle when he disappeared, whose side is he on? And what about Florean Fortescue - are their disappearances linked? --Will Ron and Harry pass their Apparation tests? --What about Dumbledore's family? (JKR said in her interview with MuggleNet/TLC that Dumbledore's family would be a "profitable line of inquiry.") --If Voldemort lost his body at Godric's Hollow, then who retrieved his wand? --What's behind the locked door in the Department of Mysteries? --Why did Regulus choose to leave the Death Eaters? --Will we learn any more about Dumbledore's brother Aberforth? Will he have an important role to play in the book? --What happened to Dumbledore's wand after his death? --Who will reinstate the protective barriers around Hogwarts that Dumbledore removed so he and Harry could fly to the tower? Not just anybody could have taken them down or Hogwarts would be constantly attacked. Is Dumbledore the only one who knew how to perform those charms? --How did Dumbledore know the details of Lord Voldemort's murder of Lily - how LV offered to spare her life and how the charm that protects Harry was formed - if no one else was there to witness it? Was Dumbledore actually there to witness it? --What happened in the period of time between baby Harry's rescue from the ruins of Godric's Hollow and being left the NEXT DAY at the Dursley's doorstep? --What were Dumbledore and Snape arguing about that Hagrid overheard at the edge of the forest in HBP? Was it about spying on Draco, or was it something else? --Where did Snape and Draco go at the end of the sixth book? --In Chamber of Secrets, Lockhart says that he transformed a werewolf back into a man using the "immensely complex Homorphus Charm." Now we know that Lockhart didn't actually do this, but he did steal the story from another wizard. So, is there a way to cure Lupin? --Will the giants and goblins take a firmer position about the war? Will they ever choose a side? --Are we going to see SPEW again? Will the house-elves' rights be improved by the end of the series? And what will become of all of the house-elves that we know so far in the series? Thanks, Roque and Mary Pat --What happened to Sirius's motorbike while he was in Azkaban? And where is the motorbike now? --Do we know the whole story behind Dumbledore's hand injury in HBP? --Assuming Hogwarts stays open, will the curse that Voldemort presumably placed on the DADA position ever be lifted? --What are the twelve uses of dragon's blood that Dumbledore discovered? Will these discoveries be important to the story in any way? --Who helped R.A.B. retrieve the locket from the cave? (Dumbledore made it clear that two people were needed to get past Voldemort's enchantments.) And where is the locket now? --What significance is the fact that Mundungus Fletcher has been stealing things from Grimmauld Place going to have to the plot of the next book? Did he take the locket from Grimmauld Place, and if so, who did he sell it to? Will Mundungus be playing an important part in the next book? --JKR said that someone will manage magic very late in life in Book 7: who will it be? Filch, perhaps? --Did Dumbledore have a will or anything equivalent to a will? --When Snape is about to kill Dumbledore, Dumbledore says, "Severus... Please..." Was Dumbledore asking Snape to kill him or was he asking for mercy? --What was the potion that Dumbledore had to drink in the cave? --How did Dumbledore become such an "extraordinary magic user, even at a young age" (a quote from an OWL examiner in OOTP)? Was it just study and hard work, or is there something different about him? --How will Harry find his parents' home in Godric's Hollow? After all, Wormtail is the secret-keeper, and as far as we know, the only way to find the home would be for Wormtail to tell Harry its location. --Do we know the full reason that Voldemort decided to try to kill Harry instead of Neville? --How did Hagrid retrieve Harry from the ruins of his parents' house if he was not told the location by the secret-keeper? --Now that Dumbledore is dead, who is the secret-keeper of the Order of the Phoenix? Is the spell broken? --Is there more to the curtain that Sirius fell through in Order of the Phoenix? --Where did the Potter family's wealth come from? --Why did Dumbledore give Snape the DADA job if Dumbledore suspected there was a jinx on the position? --Will Voldemort be angry that Snape killed Dumbledore rather than allowing Draco to do it himself? --What truly determines whether or not someone becomes a ghost? Is there more to it than what Nearly Headless Nick said there was? --When Dumbledore is explaining to the Dursleys that the magic protecting Harry will cease to operate on his 17th birthday, each of the Dursleys reactions are given, and the book says that Aunt Petunia "was oddly flushed." What is the significance of her reaction? Does she know something more? Thanks, Kathy __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

06-10-2007, 02:19 PM	#30
freshnesschronic Professor Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,555	Good job Cloud. > You've made me obsessed with Harry Potter again. Now I have to split my forum times with the Cellar and www.thesnitch.net.

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