Why are there immigration laws - Page 2

busterb · 03-27-2006, 08:58 PM

Don't fit for you? Don't read the damn post.

tw · 03-27-2006, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by busterb

Don't fit for you? Don't read the damn post.

What does that mean? The original question also remains unanswered: So how is Roosevelt's point relevant to this discussion? Simple question. Answer should be just as simple. How is Roosevelt's point relevant?

03-27-2006, 11:55 PM

Well, I don't know what busterb's point was, but Teddy's little diatribe sounds a bit xenophobic to me. Sure, we shouldn't allow people to come over here and be citizens while at the same time working actively to overthrow the government on behalf of some foreign power, but I have no problem with "hyphenated" Americans. So someone is Mexican-American. BFD. This is an English speaking country, so if people want to get anywhere here, it would be helpful for them to learn English. If they want to speak Swahili or pig Latin in the privacy of their own homes, I couldn't care less.

As far as a person becoming in every facet an American, look at the Pennsylvania Dutch. They've been here longer than a lot of other folks, they still speak a form of German dialect among themselves, and they haven't exactly blended into the main stream. I notice that none of them have tried to blow up any government buildings lately, either.

Old Teddy made his pronouncement at the turn of the last century when this country was getting flooded with European immigrants. Folks were feeling pretty overwhelmed by them all, and you can see that in Teddy's statement. Given the times, his words were actually rather magnanimous of him.

Bully.

Urbane Guerrilla · 03-28-2006, 12:25 AM

The root of the immigrant problem isn't really within our borders. Where we get illegal inmigrantes from are those places not blessed with a middle class visible without strong magnification. Examine the matter from that point of view: once there are opportunities at home, the illegals aren't going to have to thrash their way up the economic fish-ladder past the barriers of work skills, language, et cetera that are presented here. It's the utter paucity of opportunity at home that drives them to try their fortune here.

This is why the whole of South and Central America could use a thorough dose of libertarianism. Right now corrupt officialdom and a prevailing disenlightenment among the wealthy stand in the way of a prosperity that would be fairly easily gained otherwise.

WabUfvot5 · 03-28-2006, 03:32 AM

Mari: Dutch is a form of terrorism unto its own

xoxoxoBruce · 03-29-2006, 06:11 PM

From Mechanix Illustrated 9-1949. You can see the rest of the pictures and read the article, here.

03-29-2006, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Right now corrupt officialdom and a prevailing disenlightenment among the wealthy stand in the way of a prosperity that would be fairly easily gained otherwise.

Yes, the US does seem to have those problems. :p

Griff · 03-29-2006, 08:59 PM

I've always been (and still am) an open borders guy but our recent problem with sewer rats in the cellar kinda makes you think. I'll assume the boredom of slow replies is our friend here, but then again lack of content apparently isn't boring so what is?

Urbane Guerrilla · 03-29-2006, 10:24 PM

That's a good question -- and that was a bad answer. Mexico still needs a visible middle class.

Then it would be Mexico with the inmigrante problem.

wolf · 03-30-2006, 01:34 AM

Would someone please explain to me again how this isn't racism?

Happy Monkey · 03-30-2006, 07:28 AM

What part? The march? The law they were protesting?

jinx · 03-30-2006, 01:26 PM

These parts, I think.

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to direct our own destinies and not be subservient to the White and Jewish power structures

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wrestle control of the district from a Jewish dominated school board and a White superintendent

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Jews have their own private schools so why are 5 Jews out of 7 school board members

wolf · 03-30-2006, 01:49 PM

Those would be the bits, thank you.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-30-2006, 08:10 PM

I wonder how many of those 700,000 are registered voters? Also, excluding illegals and children, what %tage of those eligible are registered?
Like the civil rights movement, they'd have to work on registration and getting the voters to the poll.

warch · 04-03-2006, 01:44 PM

Aztlan activists unfortunately identify with the Palestinians. (Forced off their land and all when the US map was drawn). Its the radical far left, you can find a parallel with the radical far right advocating shooting the wetbacks. Note that they are not the majority, even if they have a website and a digital camera. Nor, do I hope are the border vigilantes.

03-27-2006, 08:58 PM	#16
busterb NSABFD Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: MS. usa Posts: 3,908	Don't fit for you? Don't read the damn post. __________________ I've haven't left very deep footprints in the sands of time. But, boy I've left a bunch.

03-28-2006, 12:25 AM	#19
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	The root of the immigrant problem isn't really within our borders. Where we get illegal inmigrantes from are those places not blessed with a middle class visible without strong magnification. Examine the matter from that point of view: once there are opportunities at home, the illegals aren't going to have to thrash their way up the economic fish-ladder past the barriers of work skills, language, et cetera that are presented here. It's the utter paucity of opportunity at home that drives them to try their fortune here. This is why the whole of South and Central America could use a thorough dose of libertarianism. Right now corrupt officialdom and a prevailing disenlightenment among the wealthy stand in the way of a prosperity that would be fairly easily gained otherwise. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

03-29-2006, 06:11 PM	#21
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	From Mechanix Illustrated 9-1949. You can see the rest of the pictures and read the article, here. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump. Last edited by xoxoxoBruce; 04-07-2007 at 05:53 PM.

03-29-2006, 08:59 PM	#23
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I've always been (and still am) an open borders guy but our recent problem with sewer rats in the cellar kinda makes you think. I'll assume the boredom of slow replies is our friend here, but then again lack of content apparently isn't boring so what is? __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

03-29-2006, 10:24 PM	#24
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	That's a good question -- and that was a bad answer. Mexico still needs a visible middle class. Then it would be Mexico with the inmigrante problem. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

03-27-2006, 11:55 PM	#18
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	Well, I don't know what busterb's point was, but Teddy's little diatribe sounds a bit xenophobic to me. Sure, we shouldn't allow people to come over here and be citizens while at the same time working actively to overthrow the government on behalf of some foreign power, but I have no problem with "hyphenated" Americans. So someone is Mexican-American. BFD. This is an English speaking country, so if people want to get anywhere here, it would be helpful for them to learn English. If they want to speak Swahili or pig Latin in the privacy of their own homes, I couldn't care less. As far as a person becoming in every facet an American, look at the Pennsylvania Dutch. They've been here longer than a lot of other folks, they still speak a form of German dialect among themselves, and they haven't exactly blended into the main stream. I notice that none of them have tried to blow up any government buildings lately, either. Old Teddy made his pronouncement at the turn of the last century when this country was getting flooded with European immigrants. Folks were feeling pretty overwhelmed by them all, and you can see that in Teddy's statement. Given the times, his words were actually rather magnanimous of him. Bully.

03-28-2006, 03:32 AM	#20
WabUfvot5 Operations Operative Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 634	Mari: Dutch is a form of terrorism unto its own

03-30-2006, 01:34 AM	#25
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Would someone please explain to me again how this isn't racism? __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

03-30-2006, 07:28 AM	#26
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	What part? The march? The law they were protesting? __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

03-30-2006, 01:49 PM	#28
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Those would be the bits, thank you. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

03-30-2006, 08:10 PM	#29
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I wonder how many of those 700,000 are registered voters? Also, excluding illegals and children, what %tage of those eligible are registered? Like the civil rights movement, they'd have to work on registration and getting the voters to the poll. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

04-03-2006, 01:44 PM	#30
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	Aztlan activists unfortunately identify with the Palestinians. (Forced off their land and all when the US map was drawn). Its the radical far left, you can find a parallel with the radical far right advocating shooting the wetbacks. Note that they are not the majority, even if they have a website and a digital camera. Nor, do I hope are the border vigilantes.

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