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Old 12-21-2006, 10:02 PM   #16
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Christianity has already passed through that "convert or die" stage.

I don't consider that I have a good sample if I base my opinions about Islam only on Muslims I have met and have had an opportunity to discuss theology with. They are all professionals (psychiatrists) who have emigrated to America, and became citizens, one of whom said he took a trip back home to Pakistan and never felt so scared in his entire life. Even the ones who attend services at their local mosque have a lassez-faire approach to religion.

I read the Koran.
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Old 12-22-2006, 05:13 AM   #17
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Christianity is 700 years older than Islam and what were Christians doing 700 years ago? The Crusades?

Give Islam a couple decades to a century and they should liberaize just as Chrsitianity has.
Don't forget the Inquisition. About 700 years ago the Cathars were being wiped out for heresy. And a good deal of politics and greed was tied up in that episode of genocide too.
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Old 12-22-2006, 11:26 AM   #18
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Exactly, that is why I get pissed off whenever I hear that Islam is a violent religion.

In reality, it is actually more peaceful and forgiving than Christianity.
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Old 12-22-2006, 12:52 PM   #19
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I don't see exactly where you get that ...

Suicide-bomber-a-day was never part of the Inquisition.
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Old 12-22-2006, 01:20 PM   #20
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its the exremists on both sides who fuck everything up for everyone else.
i work with a muslim, a sikh, a catholic, a buddhist ... all nice people.

http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm
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Old 12-22-2006, 01:27 PM   #21
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They were in power. They hardly had to do suicide attacks when they could just summon the victim to the torture chamber.
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Old 12-22-2006, 01:45 PM   #22
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Need I point out that it is not the 14th Century?
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Old 12-22-2006, 02:32 PM   #23
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need i point out that just because women arent being burned at the stake, not much else has changed.
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Old 12-22-2006, 08:08 PM   #24
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You could, but you'd be wrong.
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Old 12-22-2006, 09:20 PM   #25
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need i point out that just because women arent being burned at the stake, not much else has changed.
need i point out that, after reading your post, the ammonia-soaked homeless dude I encounter back and forth to work everyday just passed you on the credibility scale?

I think you could pass him back if, for example, you publicly renounce your belief that the sun revolves around the earth.
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Old 12-23-2006, 01:21 AM   #26
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You might be surprised by the credibility of the ammonia soaked homeless dudes you pass, should you spend time in conversation with them. I doubt that you'll be surprised by Phil.
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Old 12-23-2006, 01:08 PM   #27
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keep deluding yourselves.



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Old 12-23-2006, 08:16 PM   #28
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and if you think THAT'S bad...

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Old 12-23-2006, 09:41 PM   #29
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keep deluding yourselves.
Great. Show us two of the worst photoshop jobs ever made then scorn us for living under the veil (no pun intended) of delusion.

Take thine own advice.
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Old 12-23-2006, 09:56 PM   #30
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they HATE crappy 'shop!

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just doing what i can to piss off the religious right.
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