11/13/2003: Virgin Mary in a tree stump

[wolf]

For a good religious time check out:

http://www.truthofgod.com/site/enter.asp

This is the site of a fire and brimstone preacher in
Philadelphia (he has a television ministry and travels
around to various convocations on mostly the east
coast).

There are archived copies of many of his programs ...
DO NOT MISS program number 609, in which he discusses
idolatry, and beats the plaster out of a statue of the
virgin mary ... (run forward to about 42 minutes in if
you don't want to sit through the whole program. The
REAL action hits, quite literally, at about 50
minutes)

http://www.truthofgod.com/site/pages...elecasts_2.asp

EDIT: I thought it was a pretty good likeness of the Lady in the stump, there.

[Elspode]

People see the Virgin Mary in a lot of things, apparently...


http://home.snafu.de/tilman/clearwat...mary12-11A.jpg

http://www.xprojectmagazine.com/gallery/vmary_lg.html

http://www-personal.si.umich.edu/~wm...mages/mary.jpg

http://www.fiu.edu/~mizrachs/virgin-bank.JPG

http://www.monksofadoration.org/Scottsdale.jpg

http://www.theness.com/images/tree.gif

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attra...CACOL1mary.jpg

[juju]

Originally posted by FileNotFound
When I was little I used to see these odd things floating in the air if I first focused on something far away then relaxed my eyes on an non existing point. I used to think that they maybe ghosts or spirits.

I've been told these are just things floating in your eyes. Not sure if it's true, but it seems like a reasonable explanation to me.

[CharlieG]

Originally posted by Elspode
...snip...What part of "Thou shalt not kill" do the Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland not get, for example? If you are going to kill each other over religion, shouldn't you at least adhere to your own religions' rules?

Now I'm NOT disagreeing, but "Thou shalt not kill" is a poor translation from the Aramaic. Form what I understand the original was closer in meaning to "Thou Shalt Not Commit Murder" - It allows for self defense. Of course, this doesn't apply in the NI situation, so this is an aside....

My Aramaic's a little rusty, but I did a translation. I think it's pretty close.

"Thou shalt not kill, unless the people whom you are killing are brown, or have otherwise done something to offend or trouble you."

[Undertoad]

goethean "Let me know what you consider sacred so I can piss all over it."

The US constitution; the pure innocence of a newborn baby; the beauty of music; creativity and originality; the progress of humankind; freedom; and four cheese Cheese Nips.

Have at it.

[goethean]

The US constitution

Ah. Ashcroft's done the pissing already.

[FileNotFound]

Originally posted by juju
I've been told these are just things floating in your eyes. Not sure if it's true, but it seems like a reasonable explanation to me.

I guessed that much, even then I considered the possibility. Yet giving those things far greater meaning was far more excieting.

[Torrere]

Apparently, Deuteronomy 7 (specifically 7:2) is taken to mean that God supports killing in war.


7:2 And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, [and] utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:

7:5 But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire.

7:6 For thou [art] an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that [are] upon the face of the earth.

[Elspode]

Yeah, but that's OLD Testament Jehovah. We now have Jehovah v2.0, the kinder, gentler, more forgiving God, who only allows killing if you don't believe in Jesus, and then only He gets to knock off your immortal soul.

That seems reasonable.

[Syrinx]

Originally posted by Elspode
[If] Catholicism isn't goddess worship, then nothing is. ... Okay, it would probably come as a surprise to the Catholics to discover that they were goddess worshippers, but I calls 'em as I sees 'em.

It's a common misconception that Catholics worship Mary. However, if a Catholic is truly worshipping Mary, then they are not practicing the Catholic faith. In fact, they are abandoning what their faith teaches them, as many have pointed out here.

For more details on the difference between "worshipping Mary" and "veneration of the Saints," see http://www.americancatholic.org/Feat...y_worship.asp. It's certainly not the only site that helps explain this common misconception, but it's the first I found.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Well you better find a better one because that one doesn't work.:p Welcome to the Cellar, Syrinx.

[God]

Originally posted by CharlieG
... It allows for self defense.

This is what I meant. Of course, it only applies if you are white and are from the southern US.

Originally posted by dave
"Thou shalt not kill, unless the people whom you are killing are brown, or have otherwise done something to offend or trouble you."

Not just brown......anything other than white. And even white if you're drunk or just lost at the latest cool video game.

Always glad to clarify

[Elspode]

Originally posted by Syrinx

It's a common misconception that Catholics worship Mary. However, if a Catholic is truly worshipping Mary, then they are not practicing the Catholic faith. In fact, they are abandoning what their faith teaches them, as many have pointed out here.

I'll have to take your word for it. I've also wondered about that whole graven images prohibition, too. The Catholic supply stores I've been to are knee-deep in those things.

Welcome aboard, Syrinx. You'll learn that I'm half serious, half joking, and half intellectual... :p

[wolf]

Originally posted by Elspode
I'll have to take your word for it. I've also wondered about that whole graven images prohibition, too. The Catholic supply stores I've been to are knee-deep in those things.

If it's injection molded out of cheap plastic is it still technically graven?