Will Soldiers Have to Use Private Ins? - Page 2

Clodfobble · 03-18-2009, 11:20 AM

I imagine she would like him to speak with her.

classicman · 03-18-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

I imagine she would like him to speak with her.

Too bad - it's just not in the stars.

busterb · 03-18-2009, 07:22 PM

Bad mood. Looks like to me some of posters don't have any dog in the hunt. Other than the lowly job of tax payer.
Today I got a letter from VA telling me that they no longer perform elective GI procedures due to a shortage of GI physicians. Hey I didn't ask for this test, my Dr. did. I'm not real interested in them using the light that came from someones butt.( other news post). But they're going to farm this test out to Humana. So is this a test of health care at VA? Maybe my test will be in Wheeling, WVA.

busterb · 03-18-2009, 07:36 PM

While I'm on this horse. The VA hospitals are teaching hospitals. When the intern class graduates it leaves a hole, which isn't filled till next class. See what I call a real Dr.? Good luck. Can you say Guinea pig?

classicman · 03-18-2009, 07:44 PM

Buster - while I am not personally involved, I am VERY interested in whats going on with this. I was just doing some research and it appears that the meeting yesterday was successful for the Vet organizations. The plan has reportedly been shelved.
The only link I can find is here

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President Obama, after an uproar by veterans groups, has scrapped a plan to require private insurance carriers to reimburse the Department of Veterans Affairs for the treatment of troops injured in service.

"In considering the third-party billing issue, the administration was seeking to maximize the resources available for veterans," White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said Wednesday in a written statement. "However, the president listened to concerns raised by the [veteran service organizations] that this might, under certain circumstances, affect veterans' and their families' ability to access health care.

"Therefore, the president has instructed that its consideration be dropped," Gibbs said.

busterb · 03-18-2009, 08:30 PM

Class. Only trouble for me I see, down the road, is WW11 vets are dieing around 1k a day. So someone is going to call for a budget cut.
I'm wondering why, Humana? I see campaign donations.

TheMercenary · 03-19-2009, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt

I don't know any of the details of this, so am just commenting with no facts, but if he was floating a plan to privatize the medical care, but still pay for it with taxpayer money, then I don't see any problem with that. If you can keep or improve the care, and save money, it's all good.

The government saves money. All private insurance has caps and deductables. That would be the rub.

sugarpop · 03-19-2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

I think its great that he TALKED to them. Who the heck else is he supposed to talk to about it? He is relatively inexperienced - remember. I applaud that he is trying to learn first and then act.

Who would you like him to speak with, sugarpop?

You're right. I just don't want them to change HIS image of what he wants to do, and get their agenda enacted instead of what's best for the country and the people. I don't want it to end up like Cheney meeting with ernergy people to write energy law. ya know what I mean? Of course, Obama ain't Cheney...

And most VET organizations didn't want it either. Right?

sugarpop · 03-19-2009, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

I imagine she would like him to speak with her.

Don't be hatin'

classicman · 03-19-2009, 08:30 PM

He is no Dick and thats certainly a good thing. What happens after he talks to them... Thats why you voted for him, you gotta trust that he'll do whats best.

sugarpop · 03-19-2009, 09:36 PM

I know. And I do. I just also know what happens to most politicians once they're in office. He will have to compromise to get it passed. I just hope he doesn't compromise the wrong parts.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-20-2009, 01:03 AM

It's dead.

classicman · 03-20-2009, 09:57 AM

as it should be.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-20-2009, 11:34 AM

They came up with an idea, threw it out there, listened to the people who would be affected as to the reasons why they felt it was unfair, and decided it was a bad idea. Isn't that the way it should work?

Shawnee123 · 03-20-2009, 11:35 AM

Seems reasonable to me.

03-18-2009, 11:20 AM	#16
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03-18-2009, 07:22 PM	#18
busterb NSABFD Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: MS. usa Posts: 3,908	Bad mood. Looks like to me some of posters don't have any dog in the hunt. Other than the lowly job of tax payer. Today I got a letter from VA telling me that they no longer perform elective GI procedures due to a shortage of GI physicians. Hey I didn't ask for this test, my Dr. did. I'm not real interested in them using the light that came from someones butt.( other news post). But they're going to farm this test out to Humana. So is this a test of health care at VA? Maybe my test will be in Wheeling, WVA. __________________ I've haven't left very deep footprints in the sands of time. But, boy I've left a bunch.

03-18-2009, 07:36 PM	#19
busterb NSABFD Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: MS. usa Posts: 3,908	While I'm on this horse. The VA hospitals are teaching hospitals. When the intern class graduates it leaves a hole, which isn't filled till next class. See what I call a real Dr.? Good luck. Can you say Guinea pig? __________________ I've haven't left very deep footprints in the sands of time. But, boy I've left a bunch.

03-18-2009, 08:30 PM	#21
busterb NSABFD Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: MS. usa Posts: 3,908	Class. Only trouble for me I see, down the road, is WW11 vets are dieing around 1k a day. So someone is going to call for a budget cut. I'm wondering why, Humana? I see campaign donations. __________________ I've haven't left very deep footprints in the sands of time. But, boy I've left a bunch.

03-19-2009, 08:30 PM	#25
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	He is no Dick and thats certainly a good thing. What happens after he talks to them... Thats why you voted for him, you gotta trust that he'll do whats best. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

03-19-2009, 09:36 PM	#26
sugarpop Professor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: the edge of the abyss Posts: 1,947	I know. And I do. I just also know what happens to most politicians once they're in office. He will have to compromise to get it passed. I just hope he doesn't compromise the wrong parts.

03-20-2009, 01:03 AM	#27
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	It's dead. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-20-2009, 09:57 AM	#28
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	as it should be. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

03-20-2009, 11:34 AM	#29
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	They came up with an idea, threw it out there, listened to the people who would be affected as to the reasons why they felt it was unfair, and decided it was a bad idea. Isn't that the way it should work? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-20-2009, 11:35 AM	#30
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Seems reasonable to me. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

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