Fraudulant Photos In Mid-East - Page 2

tjauh · 08-11-2006, 05:10 AM

let me see...

tjauh · 08-11-2006, 05:12 AM

Do u think that all of these are fake....

Sundae · 08-11-2006, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjauh

Do u think that all of these are fake....

Hello and welcome tjauh - I'm afraid I don't get your point. I'm assuming these photos are real (I don't have the eye for photoshopping that other Cellarites do) but if that is the case then why post them in a thread about fakes?

No-one here is denying that people are being killed, buildings are being bombed. The issue here is the verifiable manipulation of some photos by some photographers, mislabelling and inaccuracies.

Hippikos · 08-11-2006, 05:25 AM

Hmmm, all these pics are fakes. The casualties are actors, the cars are destroyed because they have leaking gaz tanks and the houses are destroyed because of gas leaks, easy to see...

tjauh · 08-11-2006, 05:36 AM

Check this Report and tell me were are the Fraudulant photos.....

http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle14258.htm

MaggieL · 08-11-2006, 05:55 AM

Yet another footsoldier in the infowar.

You know, it's an exceptionally poor counterargument to staged/exaggerated/manipulated/misattributed photos to offer more photos.

Undertoad · 08-11-2006, 07:54 AM

Showing pictures of dead babies with no context at all is a different sort of propaganda technique than altering images. But it's certainly a propaganda technique.

And if it's effective,

it

will

produce

more

and

more

dead

babies.

And frankly that's the lesson of the manipulations. If the photos can't be manipulated any longer, we will - inevitably - see more unmanipulated photos of dead babies.

Undertoad · 08-11-2006, 08:06 AM

German video shows Hezbollah "stage managing" rescue scene

You can see them pulling a dead child OUT of an ambulance, putting it on a different stretcher, directing the photographer to keep filming and others to clear the shot so they can get "better images".

Well done tjauh, you created the conditions for that to happen. Proud?

Hippikos · 08-11-2006, 09:24 AM

One can ask, what if these children were still alive?

glatt · 08-11-2006, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hippikos

One can ask, what if these children were still alive?

Then they should be getting medical treatment, not display treatment in front of photographers.

Hippikos · 08-11-2006, 10:11 AM

Indeed if they can pass the bombed bridges and roads...

Undertoad · 08-11-2006, 10:13 AM

...like those used by the photographers to get into the zone an hour previously.

Undertoad · 08-11-2006, 04:23 PM

On The Virtues of Killing Children

This essay asks a logical turn-around inside the horrifying question of whether to bomb when children may die.

Quote:

"...It is best that we bomb without fear."

Her eyes grow wide. "You are mad," she says.

"Not so," I answer. "Consider: when the enemy seeks to kill our child to motivate us to surrender to his will, is it not because he believes that the danger to the children will move our hearts?"

"It is," she must agree.

"And when he hides among children," I add, "why? Children do little to deflect artillery. Must it not be because he knows that we -- we ourselves -- fear for the children, even his children?"

She nods, silently.

"Then it is proven," I say. "It is our love of these innocents that endangers them. If we did not care if children died, they would be in little danger."

It goes on.

Elspode · 08-11-2006, 05:13 PM

Somebody needs to post pics of some dead Israeli children, so that we can hurry up and move right along to the "they started it first" finger-pointing.

Trilby · 08-11-2006, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Elspode

Somebody needs to post pics of some dead Israeli children, so that we can hurry up and move right along to the "they started it first" finger-pointing.

Oh, no. Israeli children don't die. Only Lebanese. I thought you were smarter than that, 'spode. *shakes head in dismay*

Good thing Hzblh doesn't use human shields or things would be worse.

08-11-2006, 05:10 AM	#16
tjauh Writer of Writings Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 14	before and after.... let me see... Attached Images

08-11-2006, 05:25 AM	#19
Hippikos Flocci Non Facio Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In The Line Of Fire Posts: 571	Hmmm, all these pics are fakes. The casualties are actors, the cars are destroyed because they have leaking gaz tanks and the houses are destroyed because of gas leaks, easy to see... __________________ Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it.

08-11-2006, 05:55 AM	#21
MaggieL in the Hour of Scampering Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Jeffersonville PA (15 mi NW of Philadelphia) Posts: 4,060	Yet another footsoldier in the infowar. You know, it's an exceptionally poor counterargument to staged/exaggerated/manipulated/misattributed photos to offer more photos. __________________ "Neither can his Mind be thought to be in Tune,whose words do jarre; nor his reason In frame, whose sentence is preposterous..."

08-11-2006, 09:24 AM	#24
Hippikos Flocci Non Facio Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In The Line Of Fire Posts: 571	One can ask, what if these children were still alive? __________________ Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it.

08-11-2006, 10:11 AM	#26
Hippikos Flocci Non Facio Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In The Line Of Fire Posts: 571	Indeed if they can pass the bombed bridges and roads... __________________ Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it.

08-11-2006, 05:12 AM	#17
tjauh Writer of Writings Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 14	Do u think that all of these are fake....

08-11-2006, 05:36 AM	#20
tjauh Writer of Writings Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 14	Check this Report and tell me were are the Fraudulant photos..... http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle14258.htm

08-11-2006, 07:54 AM	#22
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Showing pictures of dead babies with no context at all is a different sort of propaganda technique than altering images. But it's certainly a propaganda technique. And if it's effective, it will produce more and more dead babies. And frankly that's the lesson of the manipulations. If the photos can't be manipulated any longer, we will - inevitably - see more unmanipulated photos of dead babies.

08-11-2006, 08:06 AM	#23
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	German video shows Hezbollah "stage managing" rescue scene You can see them pulling a dead child OUT of an ambulance, putting it on a different stretcher, directing the photographer to keep filming and others to clear the shot so they can get "better images". Well done tjauh, you created the conditions for that to happen. Proud?

08-11-2006, 10:13 AM	#27
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	...like those used by the photographers to get into the zone an hour previously.

08-11-2006, 05:13 PM	#29
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	Somebody needs to post pics of some dead Israeli children, so that we can hurry up and move right along to the "they started it first" finger-pointing. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

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