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06-25-2005, 02:20 PM
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I didn't finish my PhD until I was 28; the short term goal was not cash. Wasn't a millionaire until 45. It's a marathon, not a sprint.
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06-24-2005, 01:28 AM
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halve your cake and eat it too.
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luna, can I only say that was a bad idea.. keep whatever convictions you like.. but uh.. please don't marry the first guy you have 'relations with' there have been too many of my friends that have made that mistake.. keep in mind that I have been an ought and ought whore. hey if you love the guy... thinkl about 30 years from now! think about it! love or sex...
xoxoxobruce?
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06-24-2005, 12:47 PM
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Nice people frighten me.
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Hey, that's the only way I can keep to my own moral code. You may have something different, and that's your decision. I have a close friend who says she will not even kiss until her wedding day, and that's her decision too. I am not calling anyone a whore, but this is the way I feel right now. Of course, I must keep in mind that my opinions may change over time, as I am quite young yet. Heck, when I was seven, I thought boys were gross. Thank you for the advice, nonetheless.
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Well, obviously no one is going to give you a nickel every time something common happens, so stop using that idiotic phrase. Persons attempting to find a motive in this narrative will be prosecuted; persons attempting to find a moral in it will be banished, persons attempting to find a plot in it will be shot. -Mark Twain |
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06-24-2005, 05:37 PM
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You have deftly turned her statement on its head and likewise inverted it's meaning. She DID NOT SAY that she would marry the first person she had 'relations with'. She DID SAY that she would not have sex until she was married. You may say that these two statements wind up being the same thing. But your remark implies that her plan is to marry the first person she has sex with, that marriage is a consequence of sex. Maybe that's what you're trying to say is a bad idea. But I think Luna has something more consequential in mind, that despite her sexual tension, she has decided that her decison to marry someone will be based on criteria other than sex. A wise decision. As you know, and I know, sex can profoundly affect one's feelings and thoughts and actions, not always in reliable ways. I think Luna's decision to wait shows that she will not marry for sex, just the opposite of what you implied. Sex is G-R-E-A-T but certainly not something to base a marriage on, you said so yourself. Marriage is vastly more important and enduring and complicated than sex, and that's saying a lot. Sex is a part of marriage, not the other way around.
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06-25-2005, 01:20 AM
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LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz
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HERE HERE !!!!! I aplaud your opinion Case !!!! Both partners SHOULD have sowed their wild oats ( as it were ) , then live togather for 6 months , see if you can put up with the farting and burping and smacking of lips , oh and go on an overnite canoe trip togather , if after 2 days of trying to work as a team , you and your prospective spouce have had fun , then well you can probley make it at least 16 years , my wife and i did ALL this and well we are still togather after 16 + years , and I don't see it ending ANY TIME soon !!!
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06-25-2005, 02:20 AM
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halve your cake and eat it too.
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case is right.. and you as well zippyt.. long story that I won't bore you with. suffice to say 'amen' (if only I were religious!)
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06-25-2005, 02:26 AM
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halve your cake and eat it too.
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as to wolf... I'm sure we agree I'd rahter have sex than be a millionaire
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06-25-2005, 02:24 PM
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06-25-2005, 02:40 AM
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case said it.
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06-25-2005, 02:40 AM
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halve your cake and eat it too.
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Why in the world would you say this is a bad idea? Young people, inexperienced in many many things in the world get married all the time. Why would you suggest that a prerequisite for a happy marriage is sexual experience?
it's my own experience.. perhaps I spoke too soon.. i apologize, I'd be the first toasting them if that's what they choose to do. You have deftly turned her statement on its head and likewise inverted it's meaning. She DID NOT SAY that she would marry the first person she had 'relations with'. She DID SAY that she would not have sex until she was married. You may say that these two statements wind up being the same thing. But your remark implies that her plan is to marry the first person she has sex with, that marriage is a consequence of sex. Maybe that's what you're trying to say is a bad idea. once again from personal experience... knowing the difference between love and sex can CAN take a while, I just hope she knows it.. and yes.. I phrased it badly But I think Luna has something more consequential in mind, that despite her sexual tension, she has decided that her decison to marry someone will be based on criteria other than sex. A wise decision. As you know, and I know, sex can profoundly affect one's feelings and thoughts and actions, not always in reliable ways. I think Luna's decision to wait shows that she will not marry for sex, just the opposite of what you implied. for the third time, I aplogize. I ought not have thrown in my two cents worth at the time. no. she ought to marry for whatever reason she see's fit.. yes. sex itself has made me do some pretty stupid things... I am older and int heory 'wiser' (alhtough not that much all told) Sex is G-R-E-A-T but certainly not something to base a marriage on, you said so yourself. Marriage is vastly more important and enduring and complicated than sex, and that's saying a lot. Sex is a part of marriage, not the other way around you know I agree, I wish I had married the first person I had sex with. then again I'm glad I didn't.. I don't mean to disuade (sp?) her from doing that! some good friends of mine got married at 19/20 I wish I could be that certian. never have been neve expect to be.. but!.. suffice to say I apologize for spouting off at the mouth. I ought to have thought it out a bit more.. Luna, forgive me., (no, I'm not being sarcastic. I ought not have spoken)
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06-25-2005, 02:46 AM
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halve your cake and eat it too.
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she ought to get a little sump-in-sump-in (as it were) before the wedding day... the thing is that my grandmother and grandfather were done in an arranged marriage.. and tell ya what he was a bastard. I danced on his grave when he died.. he treated her like SHITso... there in lies my problem with marriage before 'shopping around' a bit.. okay shutting up now
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06-25-2005, 05:40 AM
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In many couplings, sex doesn't begin at marriage, it ends.
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06-25-2005, 02:10 PM
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In our case, it ended with the arrival of the second child. Guess she got everything she wanted out of sex and that's that.
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06-25-2005, 08:45 AM
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06-25-2005, 12:04 PM
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Hey cowhead, could you please use either the italics or the quote tags when quoting someone? You sounded rather schizophrenic there.
The little buttons at the top of the Quick Reply box will do it for you, easy cheesy.
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