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Old 03-21-2020, 10:04 PM   #1
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We're re-using N95 masks five times, each worker is issued one and stores it in a tupperware container with the straps outside the lid.

We've just implemented a protocol for shooting portable chest x-rays through the door (ER patient rooms have a glass door).
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Old 03-21-2020, 10:14 PM   #2
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I'm sorry, Flint. I'm grateful for folks like you, doing the impossible job as best you can.
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Old 03-21-2020, 10:32 PM   #3
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Thank you. To clarify-- I don't come into clinical contact with patients, but I do support the department running smoothly, and since it's under stress and we haven't technically been given guidance on cancelling outpatient imaging procedures, I'm delaying pulling the "work from home" card.

My work friends, the people I see every day, are the ones that are really in the firing line. I'm there in solidarity, to be honest. So I've quarantined myself to work (the minimum exposure possible) and my house. I haven't been in contact with anyone else...in 10 days? My ex is keeping the kids.
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Old 03-21-2020, 11:25 PM   #4
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UPDATE SINCE EARLIER: I live on the coast, a tourist area, and I'm now learning that we're overrun with people coming in from out of town. My town and the next one over are drafting up an emergency declaration but do not have the authority to impose restrictions on hotels, etc. until the governor declares restrictions on the whole state.

I live in the one that's in between Washington and California.
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Old 03-22-2020, 10:44 AM   #5
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Man, that sucks. People need to go home.

I have an aunt fighting cancer she's supposed to get radiation 5x per week for 6 weeks. Talk about terrible timing.
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Old 03-22-2020, 12:31 PM   #6
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The plot thickens.

FEMA administrator says more masks are being shipped from stockpile amid shortage

Ah yes, the national stockpile.
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Old 03-22-2020, 12:37 PM   #7
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It's true. The national stockpile is 75 million masks.

But they are just for emergencies
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Old 03-22-2020, 08:34 PM   #8
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It's true. The national stockpile is 75 million masks.

But they are just for emergencies
... and they are now being shipped to the areas of greatest need

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The president also said the federal government has deployed hundreds of tons of supplies from national stockpiles to locations “with the greatest need in order to assist in those areas.”
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Old 03-24-2020, 09:24 AM   #9
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It's true. The national stockpile is 75 million masks.

But they are just for emergencies
This just made me want to beat my head against my monitor. Thanks for bringing that up.
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Old 03-22-2020, 01:06 PM   #10
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Good thing the Democrats reminded us about those go to war supplies and it wasn't politically incorrect to do so.
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Old 03-22-2020, 01:27 PM   #11
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Why is Japan an "outlier" with fewer cases than everyone else surrounding China? Nobody seems to know yet. Are they about to experience the crush, or did cultural practices stop it before it could get going? It's all just guessing at this point.
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Why is Japan an "outlier" with fewer cases than everyone else surrounding China? Nobody seems to know yet. Are they about to experience the crush, or did cultural practices stop it before it could get going? It's all just guessing at this point.
No, Japan was one of the first countries to close schools and mandate social isolation. I think their national will to band together and accept draconian measures is a result of the earthquake and tsunami from a few years ago. There is usually a political delay between the acceptance that a certain measure is required and when it is mandated whereas in Japan, that delay is maybe 20 minutes.

My default TV station is NHK (an English speaking 24-hour channel from Tokyo) and I've been hearing first hand what the national temperament in Japan is. Japan ain't effing around - they locked down early.

And while I don't post here often, I think about you knuckleheads a lot and hope everyone in cellardom is ok and makes it through this nonsense.
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Old 03-22-2020, 10:44 PM   #13
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My default TV station is NHK (an English speaking 24-hour channel from Tokyo) and I've been hearing first hand what the national temperament in Japan is. Japan ain't effing around - they locked down early..
You know more than I do and I defer to your judgement on this one

Is the lockdown over, though, because this appeared in my firehose feeds just now and somebody claimed it was Saitama Super Arena this weekend.



Or - does it mean masks are quite effective when used properly

I don't know anything any more
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Old 03-22-2020, 10:57 PM   #14
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You know more than I do and I defer to your judgement on this one

Is the lockdown over, though, because this appeared in my firehose feeds just now and somebody claimed it was Saitama Super Arena this weekend.



Or - does it mean masks are quite effective when used properly

I don't know anything any more
I just watched the Sumo tournament from Tokyo - one of the most important sporting events in all of Japan. The stadium was empty - only the wrestlers, the referee and the handlers - not a single fan in the stands. It was surreal. Think of the biggest boxing match of the year from Vegas with no one in attendance.

So I don't know where that pic came from but I would be shocked to learn it is a recent pic from Japan. Japan is 1 inch away from cancelling the Olympics so this pic would be very hard to explain.
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Old 03-23-2020, 05:09 AM   #15
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You know more than I do and I defer to your judgement on this one

Is the lockdown over, though, because this appeared in my firehose feeds just now and somebody claimed it was Saitama Super Arena this weekend.



Or - does it mean masks are quite effective when used properly

I don't know anything any more
I chased it down - took a while but you are right - that is the K-1 kickboxing tournament and it was held this weekend over protests to cancel it.

K-1 event draws 6,500 in Saitama, despite calls for cancellation

Wow - how dumb is that?
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