Saddam to Swing

[yesman065]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

Between him and his wife, I'm not sure which is worse. I don't think either of them can read yet.

She is waaayyyyy worse - at least he has am actual talent.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Anyway, what's this about David Beckham's literacy, or not-?

[Undertoad]

The only people willing to indulge in random US bashing for fun are not from the US.

Originally Posted by Undertoad

The only people willing to indulge in random US bashing for fun are not from the US.

You have not met the Phelps family I see.

[DanaC]

Everyone else wants to bash the US, but answer me this - Who does EVERYONE call when they want something, need help, have a problem or a natural disaster strikes???

What, are you Ghosbusters now?:p

[yesman065]

Oh c'mon Dana you know the truth - we help every freakin body all the time. We are, BY FAR, the most generous nation on this planet - period. And I, for one, think a little appreciation would be nice once in awhile.

[tw]

Originally Posted by yesman065

Oh c'mon Dana you know the truth - we help every freakin body all the time. We are, BY FAR, the most generous nation on this planet - period.

Well you have been reading too much propaganda. By percent GNP, the US is way down the list of generous nations. I believe the champions were Scandinavian and France. Something like 80% of American aid only went to 5 countries last I read - Israel, Egypt, Greece, Turkey, and Phillippines. Last time I looked, Israel and Egypt accounted for 50% of US foreign aid. Where is all this generosity?

Then it gets worse. Much of the aid is military - thereby returning to the US as military contracts. Generous? Numbers I have seen repeatedly never say that. But myths are easy to promote - such as Saddams WMDs.

[Undertoad]

Well we were waiting by the big Ghostbusters phone on that whole Bosnia situation, but for some reason it never rang.

If you want us out of NATO just ask. The time is right.

I don't remember mentioning Katrina. I wrote about the entirety of my state after my home was hit by four of five hurricanes, all of them fours or above and my state hit by five in just a couple of months.
Read much?

[tw]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

I don't remember mentioning Katrina.

You called other nations shitbags because you did not see their help after trivial hurricanes in FL? Well, when America REALLY needed help, then others offered it. Help was rejected. Did you ask how many times such assistance from Bahamas was also rejected? Or did you automatically assume all other nations are scum until proven otherwise - the classic Fox News assumption?

Katrina demonstrates exactly why you did not see foreign assistance during 'normal' hurricanes. Why did you post nonsense – that I did not answer your question? Damning fact called Katrina even demonstrates why foreign assistance is not permitted in FL. Why do you forget those facts? Did you consult responsible news sources – or do you believe hate promoted by Limbaugh and Fox News?

Why would other nations be permitted to offer assistance when the mental midget would not even let them help in New Orleans? This question is never asked by the mental midget supporters who believe Fox News, CBN, or Limbaugh.

Shame on you for not immediately understanding the lessons of Katrina. Your post was answered brutally correct. Katrina demonstrates why you don’t see foreign assistance in FL. Only a disciple of Fox New hate would have promoted so much contempt for the countrymen of Billy and Sundae Girl.

Originally Posted by tw

You called other nations shitbags because you did not see their help after trivial hurricanes in FL? Well, when America REALLY needed help, then others offered it. Help was rejected. Did you ask how many times such assistance from Bahamas was also rejected? Or did you automatically assume all other nations are scum until proven otherwise - the classic Fox News assumption?

Katrina demonstrates exactly why you did not see foreign assistance during 'normal' hurricanes. Why did you post nonsense – that I did not answer your question? Damning fact called Katrina even demonstrates why foreign assistance is not permitted in FL. Why do you forget those facts? Did you consult responsible news sources – or do you believe hate promoted by Limbaugh and Fox News?

Why would other nations be permitted to offer assistance when the mental midget would not even let them help in New Orleans? This question is never asked by the mental midget supporters who believe Fox News, CBN, or Limbaugh.

Shame on you for not immediately understanding the lessons of Katrina. Your post was answered brutally correct. Katrina demonstrates why you don’t see foreign assistance in FL. Only a disciple of Fox New hate would have promoted so much contempt for the countrymen of Billy and Sundae Girl.

You have no idea what you are talking about... I lived those storms, all of them, disabled with an infant, and the aftermath. Water shortages, in heat that many of you have never known, no power, many areas flooded, roads closed for weeks, some for months, no repairs for months... things you cannot imagine. People doing horrible and wonderful things, but NONE of it trivial...
My neighbor died in those storms.
Trivial?
You are a fool, what is worse, an armchair, ignorant fool.
I am done with you.

[yesman065]

Gee tw, I tell you I don't listen to Rush and now your spouting about Fox - guess what? Wrong again, as usual. It seems you only hear what you want - anything negative towards the republicans you take as gospel. Can't you find any middle ground?

[tw]

Originally Posted by yesman065

Gee tw, I tell you I don't listen to Rush and now your spouting about Fox - guess what? Wrong again, as usual.

Well you nicely avoided questions that beg you to defend an indefensible posts. This is, Yesman065, what you do not reply to; what exposes that previous post as naive and hateful:

So who did respond to Liberia's call (a country created by Americans) when they recently needed from a military massacre? Not the US. So who rescued hundreds of Americans recently in Ivory Coast? Not the US. Why did the entire USS Lincoln task force sit nearby in Hong Kong for five days - never moved - as people were dying after a tsunami and after the world had been providing assistance?

Good Americans view foreigners as peers and allies. Extremists somehow believe only Americans do the good - due to Fox News, et al distortions. To those outside of America - yes the hate believe by a minority of Americans and George Jr supporters is that extreme. To them, you are second class people.

But then I should not have to be the ones posting this. Non-Americans should be asking Yesman065 why he has so much contempt for non-Americans.

Well, Yesman065: there were a long list of questions in that post that any informed American could answer? They were asked of you. Where are your answers? If you have so much contempt for non-Americans, then easily you can answer those questions. Show us how the nations of Billy, Sundae Girl, Cyclefrance, etc are so pathetic? Answer those questions in This Post.

[yesman065]

Originally Posted by tw

Well you nicely avoided questions that beg you to defend an indefensible posts. This is, Yesman065, what you do not reply to; what exposes that previous post as naive and hateful: Good Americans view foreigners as peers and allies.
But then I should not have to be the ones posting this. Non-Americans should be asking Yesman065 why he has so much contempt for non-Americans.
there were a long list of questions in that post that any informed American could answer? Where are your answers? If you have so much contempt for non-Americans, then easily you can answer those questions. Show us how the nations of Billy, Sundae Girl, Cyclefrance, etc are so pathetic? Answer those questions

I never said I had contempt for Non-Americans! EVER! Don't ever misquote me you shit! I'll repeat what I said in my earlier post - We are, BY FAR, the most generous nation on this planet - period. I never desparaged any other nation EVER! I don't need to defend myself - especially to you! You are the one who is spouting misinformation and outright lies, not I.

I don't need to list the amount of aid America has given to the rest of the world - or how many countries we aid ever year. What end does that serve? Oh, fuck it heres a lil tidbit for you:
"In 2004, the United States is providing some form of foreign assistance to about 150 countries. Israel and Egypt continue, as they have since the late 1970s, as the largest recipients, although Iraq, receiving over $20 billion for reconstruction activities since mid-2003. The importance of Latin America counter-narcotics efforts is also evident, with Bolivia, Peru, and more recently, Colombia, among the top U.S. aid recipients. The impact of the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001, and the subsequent use of foreign aid to support the war on terrorism is clearly seen in the country-aid allocations for FY2004. Afghanistan, Pakistan,Turkey, Jordan, and Indonesia are key partners in the war on terrorism."
Oh, and just for good measure - (Paraphrase)By nearly all measures, the amount of foreign aid provided by the United States hit an alltime
low in the mid1990s(end) - Who was President then????
Bill Clinton : 1993-2001
Now write a fuckin' retraction.

[tw]

Originally Posted by yesman065

I never said I had contempt for Non-Americans! EVER! Don't ever misquote me you shit! I'll repeat what I said in my earlier post - We are, BY FAR, the most generous nation on this planet - period.

Well now we all know who is correct. In frustration, you are now posting disparaging words. No, you did not say you have contempt for non-Americans just like a 1950 southern did not say he had contempt of a negro. But the bottom line fact remains obvious in your post. You make this claim of generosity that is not proven by facts and numbers. And then you post it again without doing what a patriotic American does - get and learn those facts.

The five top 'American aid' recipients were before Iraq was 'liberated'. Currently no one really knows how much is going to Iraq since corruption is so widespread in this American government - no bid contracts being only the tip of what may be a massive iceberg.

Meanwhile, aid to S America, Africa, etc has always existed - and was trivial. Since we threw an expense probe at it, does the moon also end up on that aid list?

When the US government convened a world council to coordinate rebuilding of Iraq in 2004(?), the number was $40 billion. The world gasped. That was far more than the US provides as aid to all of Africa (except Egypt). So where is all this generous aid? When do you post numbers to support your claims? Last numbers I saw put Scandinavian countries and France high on the list - well above America. Why do you make the same questioned claim - and still not provide any numbers? Do you automatically know - not need to first learn facts? Only wacko left and right wing extremists do that. I am sure you would not want to be one of those. Clearly you are reassessing your claims by first consulting sources. Good. Now let’s see some numbers for this generosity.