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09-10-2006, 10:54 PM
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Geez...I'm glad I never lied about sex!
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09-11-2006, 01:13 PM
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tw, who do you support for President in 2008?
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09-11-2006, 01:28 PM
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Currently on my favorites list is McCain. In the face of extremist and other liars (Christian zionist extremists), McCain has stood his ground. I have little respect for either party. But honesty and other leadership values are extremely important to me. Notice when my tone towards MaggieL because most acidic. She was lying and she obviously knew she was lying about Israeli warplanes. She was not even honest to herself. Would I vote for someone like Rumsfeld or Rice? Based upon simplest requirements for leadership - ability to grasp problems, desire to do a job, etc. Then yes. But Rumsfeld is so attached to a political agenda as to not even listen when he is proven wrong - ie Iraq. And Rice somehow supported erroneous political agenda rather than do her job as National Security Advisor. Her tenure at NSA demonstrates lack of integrity - a political agenda and blind loyalty is more important than the purpose of her job. Two examples of how a presidential candidate loses my support quickly. How two people with potential for great leadership abilities so undermine their own credibility. |
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09-11-2006, 01:53 PM
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09-11-2006, 02:03 PM
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Someday you may actually have to support someone publically, and then you'll soon feel *so* betrayed by how they "lied" to you. Fortunately you're the arbiter of "reality", "logic" and "reason". McCain has "stood his ground" so well with "Christian Zionists" lately that he's been playing kissy-face with Pat Robertson and Bob Jones University...so you might want to start preparing your catchphrases, epithets and denunciations now; wouldn't want to be rushed during the convention season.
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09-11-2006, 02:24 PM
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I understand that it's tiresome to hear the same complaints, time after time after time after time. I get tired of making them when the same shit happens on a different day. I've never had anyone answer my question, even unsatisfactorily: what's this Administration done right?
NOTE: I didn't ask what he's done well, I asked what he's done CORRECTLY. I realize that's, potentially extremely subjective. So, let me lay out a specific, and I hope non-biased, definition: correctly: set out a policy with a specific set of goals that he's acheived 85% of, without any mitigating statements. '08? Are you serious? We're not even done with the '06 cycle, yet. To hijack your hijackery (probably in poor taste today, but I'm told I taste bad, so...): I'm really hoping the Democrats get control of the Senate and the House. I'm a huge believer in oppositional control of the various branches of government. Also, I'd like to see some accountability from the White House, because, IMNSHO...this Administration has gotten away with a LOT of BS that wouldn't have happened if he were a Democratic president (the getting away with part, not necessarily the attempts).
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09-11-2006, 03:20 PM
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09-11-2006, 03:21 PM
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09-11-2006, 06:16 PM
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I just love the way you yanks bring the whole issue of the midde east, the war on terror, hezbollah and Hamas down to the parochial level of 'who you going to vote for next time?'......
Why are you so surprised when the rest of the world laughs at your grasp of polictical reality?
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09-11-2006, 06:35 PM
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Jay provides us an important lesson.
The current strain of European anti-Americanism is not due to, and will not end with, Bush's time in office. |
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09-11-2006, 07:41 PM
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Jay, the reason that question is so vexed is the current context of events: the Republican Party, now in power, is actually trying to fight the war. It may have been helpful to formally declare that a the US is in a state of war, which would have had the effect of obligating these parties to put all differences aside and concentrate on pulling together, but it seemed out of proportion, disjunct, at the time -- and it still does. The Democratic Party, by contrast, has no plan whatsoever to fight the war, none to win it better than the Republicans might, an inclination to carp about it in the most irresponsible, soft-on-antidemocracies manner that gave the Soviets such a free hand to work their will to make life suck internationally and not just domestically, and generally indulge in the most foolish acts of party empire-building I've ever seen in my country. The national leadership of the Democratic Party has completely forfeited my trust for the foreseeable future by this exhibition, this following of the far-left lunatic fringe.
We've got two kinds of people: those who know the Islamo-fascists are our enemy, self-made and self-declared, and those who couldn't correctly identify our real enemy on a multiple-choice question. Most of the senior leadership of the Democratic Party takes actions that say they believe the true enemy is the Republican Administration. What fools! What addlepated, ninnyhammered, scrotum-knotted invertebrates!
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09-11-2006, 07:49 PM
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mmmm....... UG answers within the context of US internal polictics.....
like I care........
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09-11-2006, 07:54 PM
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.... and UT is right......almost....
It's not anti-americanism as such.......but we do truely believe that you are heading down the wrong path. Each of your actions makes more enemies and reduces the numbers of your friends.
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