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Old 06-21-2010, 05:15 PM   #256
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:21 PM   #257
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Actually, I divulged my gender a long time ago....there is a pic here somewhere.

Hey, I think you were (are) well-intentioned, but as I said, IMO, unfortunately, your biases came through in the end, particularly with Big V (again, using your own standards of "active" contributor) and accusations of his being "pushed here by Spexx.
whatever dude. I have biases. so does everybody.

what does that have to do with this topic? Do you think I started this thread because I don't like democrats?

so, did you actually have questions that were conveniently ignored, or were you just being dramatic?
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:23 PM   #258
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Actually, I divulged my gender a long time ago....there is a pic here somewhere.

Hey, I think you were (are) well-intentioned, but as I said, IMO, unfortunately, your biases came through in the end, particularly with Big V (again, using your own standards of "active" contributor) and accusations of his being "pushed here by Spexx.

He wasn't suggesting BigV had been pushed here by Spexx. It was more to do with a big storm that blew through here a while ago and damn near exploded the cellar :P BigV pretty much buggered off after that along with the new member who caused the storm, presumably off to the board from which said storm had arrived.



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I'm sorry you and Dana feel that way. Not surprised, though.

Does that mean me and Sundae are in the tree house club?
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:26 PM   #259
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whatever dude. I have biases. so does everybody.

what does that have to do with this topic? Do you think I started this thread because I don't like democrats?

so, did you actually have questions that were conveniently ignored, or were you just being dramatic?
I think you started this thread to address a problem and IMO, for the most part you were fair and balanced.

In the end, IMO, you lost your objectivity..the questions ignored were those by Big V...but no big deal.
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:29 PM   #260
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I think you started this thread to address a problem and IMO, for the most part you were fair and balanced.

In the end, IMO, you lost your objectivity..the questions ignored were those by Big V...but no big deal.

I think that's pretty fair. But there is a little bad blood there. It was a very particular situation that led to that bad blood.
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:40 PM   #261
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I think that's pretty fair. But there is a little bad blood there. It was a very particular situation that led to that bad blood.
Dana, thanks for the clarification. If that is the case, I apologize.

I really dont want to nitpick other posts or comments...but from my perspective, the objectivity as a facilitator was lost at some point .

And, contrary to Jim's assertion/suggestion from yesterday, I am not bitter, just slightly befuddled (by standards of being "real) and bemused (by some of the childish insults and personal characterizations directed my way) that went unchecked.
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:43 PM   #262
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I am not bitter, just slightly befuddled (by standards of being "real) and bemused (by some of the personal insults and characterizations directed my way) that went unchecked.
You could be specific and direct here, and perhaps get these things cleared up.
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:47 PM   #263
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Well, if it's any consolation Redux, you seem pretty real to me :P



Good advice from Jinx as well. This is one of those rare opportunities that comes along every so often, to actually get things aired properly.
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:51 PM   #264
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You could be specific and direct here, and perhaps get these things cleared up.
Sure.

Monster's posts? Dingleberries and Aspergers Syndrome?

Do you really think they contributed to the discussion in a meaningful way. Did I post anything to bring that on?

http://cellar.org/showpost.php?p=664583&postcount=202

TheMercinary's charge that I was a "plant"....yes, that one was too funny and did not really need any request to prove it.
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:54 PM   #265
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OK, just to clear up the one bit where he quoted me and I didn't respond.

I said that Dux comes across as less of a "real person" to us than Merc

V said that this made him laugh and then wrote "OF COURSE he's a REAL PERSON."

Dux, at no time was I suggesting that you are a robot, software program, or any other form of automaton.

I thought that was utterly obvious and would go without saying to anyone not looking for an argument.
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:55 PM   #266
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I don't want to speak for Monster: but I think you basically copped for all the flak. I suspect her annoyance was actually a little wider than that, but you got into the line of fire :P
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:56 PM   #267
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I think you started this thread to address a problem and IMO, for the most part you were fair and balanced.

In the end, IMO, you lost your objectivity..the questions ignored were those by Big V...but no big deal.

ok, not to nitpick here, but I just re read all 3 of V's posts. I don't see any questions. Only one ? and that was him talking to monster.

so...if not his....were there unanswered questions? or not?

the only reason I'm pressing here is because you are claiming that I'm being un-objective..... and If this is why, I'd like to address it.
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:57 PM   #268
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Sure.

Monster's posts? Dingleberries and Aspergers Syndrome?

Do you really think they contributed to the discussion in a meaningful way. Did I post anything to bring that on?
I believe the argumentative cut and pasted post brought from another thread is what brought that on.
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:00 PM   #269
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I still think Monnie was a tad unfair in that instance. Redux was defending himself against what was being levelled at him. I'd probably have done the same.

It's just that in doing so, he inadvertently played right into the very thing that's been so annoying elsewhere on the boards. In this instance, I don't see that he was in anyway the main offender.


But see, this is what happens when things get to boiling point. I completely understand how come Monster saw red.
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:04 PM   #270
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Yeah, I wouldn't argue with any of that.
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