The Politics of a Health Crisis

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Neat trick, when I haven't a bubble.

I also haven't a prejudice.

I do work up an abiding dislike for the anti-civil liberties, anticapitalist, and anti-American machinations of a large minority of the American population and their Representatives in Congress. The Annoying Orange has set these latter at their proper valuation, which is considerably smaller than they claim.

Having this dislike, brought on by memory, I urge everyone to vote against 'em.

[BigV]

Because you value your brain (and the sound of your own voice, God love 'em) So. Much. More. Than ours, say what you mean again for us mortals, please. Small words are good ;short sentences are better.

[Griff]

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...ed-confiscated

This health crisis has spawned quite a crime spree. I guess when you elect the mobs front you get the mob, who knew?

[BigV]

By that logic, the federal government is now responsible for the care and result. But that's not happening, is it? It seems like they only want the authority and not the responsibility.

[sexobon]

It's not. Your statement was an erroneous deduction.

Originally Posted by BigV

By that logic, the federal government is now responsible for the care and result. ...

Cities and states don't get to assign responsibilities to the feds by defaulting on them. The President doesn't answer to mayors and governors. The President gets to pick and choose answering only to the people in the general election. Another four years of Trump for you.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by BigV

Because you value your brain (and the sound of your own voice, God love 'em) So. Much. More. Than ours, say what you mean again for us mortals, please. Small words are good ;short sentences are better.

Come now, really. With that attitude, how valuable is yours? What happens to the value with the attitude shorn off? So here, gratis, free of charge, a pro-tip: empty sarcasm doesn't buy impressiveness; rigorous reason does.

I've got a couple million of these, and I'm always willing to pour them over your head.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

So here, gratis, free of charge, a pro-tip: empty sarcasm doesn't buy impressiveness; rigorous reason does.

If someone has a 30 second attention span. Then thinks about something for 30 seconds. Is that rigorous reasoning? No wonder Clorox is recommended to increase health.

[xoxoxoBruce]

But do you know of anyone who has died from Corvid-19 who ate Tide Pods?

[Luce]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Come now, really. With that attitude, how valuable is yours? What happens to the value with the attitude shorn off? So here, gratis, free of charge, a pro-tip: empty sarcasm doesn't buy impressiveness; rigorous reason does.

I've got a couple million of these, and I'm always willing to pour them over your head.

You aren't getting the effect you are trying for.

[sexobon]

The mayors and governors hold the President and federal government responsible for providing PPE. Then they complain if the feds appropriate PPE that cities and states have sourced themselves.

With responsibility goes commensurate authority. The mayors and governors relinquished their authority over appropriations when they deflected responsibility to the federal government.

[Luce]

Originally Posted by sexobon

The mayors and governors hold the President and federal government responsible for providing PPE. Then they complain if the feds appropriate PPE that cities and states have sourced themselves.

With responsibility goes commensurate authority. The mayors and governors relinquished their authority over appropriations when they deflected responsibility to the federal government.

Except when they get PPE, Trump has FEMA come by and grab it off of them.

[sexobon]

That's what the cities and states bargained for when they deflected responsibilities. The federal government gets to pick and choose which responsibilities it wants to accept while getting all of the abdicated authority. Its under no obligation to please all of the people all of the time. It's good to be the Fed.

[BigV]

or your logic is flawed.

[sexobon]

So? That's a President's prerogative. There'll also be redistribution between federal agencies to keep the military effective and start rebuilding the national stockpile for the next wave:

VA health chief acknowledges a shortage of protective gear for its hospital workers

… But in an interview, the physician in charge of the country’s largest health-care system acknowledged the shortage — and said masks and other supplies are being diverted for the national stockpile.

“I had 5 million masks incoming that disappeared,” said Richard Stone, executive in charge of the sprawling Veterans Health Administration. …

… He said the Federal Emergency Management Agency directed vendors with equipment on order from VA to instead send it to FEMA to replenish the government’s rapidly depleting emergency stockpile. ...

[Luce]

Originally Posted by sexobon

So? That's a President's prerogative. There'll also be redistribution between federal agencies to keep the military effective and start rebuilding the national stockpile for the next wave:

Seizing states' property is a presidential prerogative?

Okay. Just keep that in mind.

This is particularly funny, given that the president said he wasn't going to help the states because "he's not a shipping clerk".