Guns don't kill people .... - Page 17

Aliantha · 03-28-2012, 07:25 PM

I just checked on the Qld gun laws and you don't have to be a landowner to own a gun to use for shooting pests, but you do have to have permission from a landowner (over 40 acres) for the purposes of shooting to prove your eligibility for a gun license.

Thought I'd check just to make sure I wasn't speaking out of my arse. Sometimes it's hard to tell.

ZenGum · 03-28-2012, 07:32 PM

Hey, that didn't stop me.

Oh and yeah, all guns must be stored in locked gun safes.
There was a move a while back to make sporting target shooters store their guns at the gun club, not in their homes, but I think that didn't go through, because it would be such a tempting target for thieves.

Aliantha · 03-28-2012, 08:24 PM

I wouldn't worry too much about being uninformed on this one. Most people from the city don't get out to the country that much anyway, and when they do, it's not usually for the purpose of shooting stuff.

To all intents and purposes, most people who live in urban areas probably would have trouble presenting a reason for owning a gun. I sometimes forget my family still has pretty strong rural ties, so people who own guns and use them are pretty common to me.

Ibby · 03-28-2012, 08:54 PM

in my American Judicial Process class at the community college of vermont a couple weeks ago, we were dealing with a case where a 14 year old kid shot a man who was in their house to have sex with his bipolar, possibly schizophrenic, unmedicated mother who thought a family lived under their trailer and pulled out all the insulation, freezing their pipes and cutting off their running water. The kid said that the man had to leave because his mother didn't know what she was doing and couldn't consent, the man didn't, the kid brandished his shotgun, the man attacked him, the kid shot him.
I raised the point that nobody questioned that a 14-year-old owned and kept his own shotgun.
The class just kind of went, um, yeah, its vermont, why the hell wouldn't a 14-year-old have his own shotgun?

TheMercenary · 04-01-2012, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibram

in my American Judicial Process class at the community college of vermont a couple weeks ago, we were dealing with a case where a 14 year old kid shot a man who was in their house to have sex with his bipolar, possibly schizophrenic, unmedicated mother who thought a family lived under their trailer and pulled out all the insulation, freezing their pipes and cutting off their running water. The kid said that the man had to leave because his mother didn't know what she was doing and couldn't consent, the man didn't, the kid brandished his shotgun, the man attacked him, the kid shot him.
I raised the point that nobody questioned that a 14-year-old owned and kept his own shotgun.
The class just kind of went, um, yeah, its vermont, why the hell wouldn't a 14-year-old have his own shotgun?

GD Genius you are.

footfootfoot · 03-28-2012, 09:48 PM

That's the difference between CCV and Bennington College!

ZenGum · 04-01-2012, 08:43 PM

Two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. We're not sure about the universe.

Quote:

Teenagers hurt in Victorian hunting accident

Two teenagers are in a serious condition in hospital after a shotgun accident in central Victoria.

The accident happened in the small town of Majorca in central Victoria just before midday.

Police say the two boys, aged 14 and 15, were with a 48-year-old man who was rabbit shooting at the time of the accident.

It is believed they were accidentally shot when they walked up a ridge and into the man's path as he was firing on an animal.

The pellets caused serious injuries to the face, chest and body of the 15-year-old boy.

The 14-year-old boy also suffered chest and arm injuries.

They were both flown to the Royal Children's Hospital in Melbourne.

For "It is believed they were accidentally shot when they walked up a ridge and into the man's path as he was firing on an animal"
please read
"It is believed they were accidentally shot when the man fired on an animal too close to the ridge line without sufficient backstop. Dumbarse."

I have never owned a gun or gun license, and never fired anything bigger than an air rifle, but even I know this rule.

sexobon · 04-01-2012, 09:18 PM

Were they wearing hoodies that might have made them look like trophy rabbits?

classicman · 04-02-2012, 10:48 PM

^^^FTW^^^

Lamplighter · 04-03-2012, 08:53 AM

Seven more + three wounded by one gunman.

GO, go, go NRA

Fox News
April 03, 2012

Students hid as gunman opened fire small Christian school in California; 7 dead

Quote:

OAKLAND, California – *One wounded woman cowered in the bushes
after the gunman opened fire on the campus of a small Christian university in California
One student hid in a locked classroom as the shooter banged on the door.

Within an hour's time Monday, police said, a 43-year-old former student named One L. Goh
walked into Oikos University and began a rampage that left seven people dead and three people wounded,
trapped some in the building and forced others to flee for their lives.
<snip>

classicman · 04-03-2012, 03:46 PM

About 115 people die every day in vehicle crashes in the United States
GO, go, go UAW!

Lamplighter · 04-03-2012, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

About 115 people die every day in vehicle crashes in the United States
GO, go, go UAW!

Once again, fuzzy logic.

Do away with the UAW, and cars would still be made, and accidents would still happen at the same rates.
Do away with the NRA, and gun control laws would be passed, and the rate of killings would decrease,
... maybe even down to that of auto accidents.

TheMercenary · 04-03-2012, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter

Do away with the NRA, and gun control laws would be passed, and the rate of killings would decrease...

Lamplighter · 04-03-2012, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

My short answer is: Yes, tighter gun laws could prevent that sort of massacre.
What do I propose as a solution ? That's a longer discussion.

I've invited the so-called pro-gun Dwellars to answer the same sort of question
and not surprisingly there's been no response.
They know this sort of thing is happening, but choose to do/say nothing about it.

Spexxvet · 04-04-2012, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman

About 115 people die every day in vehicle crashes in the United States
GO, go, go UAW!

But can you drive your Glock to work?

03-28-2012, 07:25 PM	#1
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I just checked on the Qld gun laws and you don't have to be a landowner to own a gun to use for shooting pests, but you do have to have permission from a landowner (over 40 acres) for the purposes of shooting to prove your eligibility for a gun license. Thought I'd check just to make sure I wasn't speaking out of my arse. Sometimes it's hard to tell. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

03-28-2012, 07:32 PM	#2
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Hey, that didn't stop me. Oh and yeah, all guns must be stored in locked gun safes. There was a move a while back to make sporting target shooters store their guns at the gun club, not in their homes, but I think that didn't go through, because it would be such a tempting target for thieves. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

03-28-2012, 08:24 PM	#3
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I wouldn't worry too much about being uninformed on this one. Most people from the city don't get out to the country that much anyway, and when they do, it's not usually for the purpose of shooting stuff. To all intents and purposes, most people who live in urban areas probably would have trouble presenting a reason for owning a gun. I sometimes forget my family still has pretty strong rural ties, so people who own guns and use them are pretty common to me. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

03-28-2012, 08:54 PM	#4
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	in my American Judicial Process class at the community college of vermont a couple weeks ago, we were dealing with a case where a 14 year old kid shot a man who was in their house to have sex with his bipolar, possibly schizophrenic, unmedicated mother who thought a family lived under their trailer and pulled out all the insulation, freezing their pipes and cutting off their running water. The kid said that the man had to leave because his mother didn't know what she was doing and couldn't consent, the man didn't, the kid brandished his shotgun, the man attacked him, the kid shot him. I raised the point that nobody questioned that a 14-year-old owned and kept his own shotgun. The class just kind of went, um, yeah, its vermont, why the hell wouldn't a 14-year-old have his own shotgun? __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

03-28-2012, 09:48 PM	#6
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	That's the difference between CCV and Bennington College! __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

04-01-2012, 09:18 PM	#8
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	Were they wearing hoodies that might have made them look like trophy rabbits?

04-02-2012, 10:48 PM	#9
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	^^^FTW^^^ __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

04-03-2012, 03:46 PM	#11
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	About 115 people die every day in vehicle crashes in the United States GO, go, go UAW! __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

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