Sundae - Page 17

sexobon · 12-26-2016, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by monster

... I was often told off for being mean to her so I stopped communicating with her at all ... I wish I could turn back the clock and do it differently just in case it could have made a difference

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Originally Posted by Sundae

... I will stop drinking or die. ...

Opinion? Entitled.
Sort my life out? Up to me.

It wouldn't have made any difference. She wouldn't let it. Like you, I moved on back then after I pushed in that thread to see what kind of prognosis she had. The writing was on the wall. There are sooooo many others in need who will let you make a difference for their lives that the ones who won't don't make the time cut ... life is too short.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-26-2016, 09:54 PM

Yeah, but you're a medical man, you can help people who will accept it because you know how to render aid for maximum effect.
We the great unwashed, are drawing on "The Days of Wine and Roses", Uncle Joe who is rumored to have drank himself to death, and old wives tales.

sexobon · 12-26-2016, 10:10 PM

It may also have something to do with those who have dealt more closely with their own mortality, like monster, and those who have dealt with a lot of unwelcome deaths, like me, having a little different perspective on anyone who insists on throwing their life away.

Undertoad · 12-26-2016, 11:18 PM

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There are sooooo many others in need who will let you make a difference for their lives

We are not here to help in that way. We can't help from here. It's inappropriate. We're not trained therapists, we could actually cause harm - actual therapy requires something that just can't happen on a semi-anonymous, public message board.

But what we can do is provide a social network of the kind that gives people something meaningful - over time, makes them feel good about themselves, specifically because there are others in their lives who do care about them.

In turn, that's why we should care for others even if they don't want to be "fixed".

And we did that. We changed Sundae's life. We made a difference. And she changed many of us and made a difference in many of our lives. It worked exactly like it was supposed to.

sexobon · 12-27-2016, 01:10 AM

I talked about making differences in people's lives.

You said it was FOR that right here:

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

We changed Sundae's life. We made a difference. And she changed many of us and made a difference in many of our lives. It worked exactly like it was supposed to.

Are you posting under the influence? Your short term memory and/or reading comprehension seem to be out of whack.

You have my permission to remove from the public board any of my posts in this thread that offend your sensibilities.

Render unto Cesare and all that.

sexobon · 12-26-2016, 11:54 PM

That's all very nice; but, people here may be in competition for attention from those who are giving more in real life. IRL always trumps virtual for the reasons you stated. This venue worked; but, within it's limitations. That's why it's not the venue of choice for everyone who's making differences in people's lives.

Undertoad · 12-27-2016, 12:48 AM

Like I said, it's not FOR that. And this thread is not for this either. Good day sir.

monster · 12-27-2016, 03:15 AM

I'm sorry. I didn't mean to start a row. I guess i was trying to process some stuff.

limey · 12-27-2016, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by monster

I'm sorry. I didn't mean to start a row. I guess i was trying to process some stuff.

So are we all. Be gentle with each other, people.

Sent by magic.

Big Sarge · 12-27-2016, 07:38 AM

She touched so many lives

footfootfoot · 12-27-2016, 11:49 AM

I thought sexobon was making a comment to console monster re: her feeling that maybe she could have made more of a difference with Sundae.

I don't see how that was out of place. As someone who has spent a lot of effort helping IRL friends who then went on anyway to drink or drug themselves to death, both of their comments resonate for me, and so, in that sense, this thread and the board are doing exactly what it says on the tin.

Now, let's chill out before I start a round of Kumbaya.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-27-2016, 01:39 PM

I agree with the Foots. By considering the source's perspective, all the comments seem reasonable to me.

lumberjim · 12-27-2016, 01:43 PM

And so it goes

Undertoad · 12-27-2016, 02:08 PM

My bad and my apologies.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-27-2016, 05:47 PM

No, not bad nor an apology needed. Everybody gets to voice their opinion. I think you're taking Uncle Ben's wisdom too seriously.

smilies aren't working

12-26-2016, 09:54 PM	#2
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Yeah, but you're a medical man, you can help people who will accept it because you know how to render aid for maximum effect. We the great unwashed, are drawing on "The Days of Wine and Roses", Uncle Joe who is rumored to have drank himself to death, and old wives tales. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-27-2016, 03:15 AM	#8
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	I'm sorry. I didn't mean to start a row. I guess i was trying to process some stuff. __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

12-27-2016, 07:38 AM	#10
Big Sarge Werepandas - lurking in your shadows Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In the Deep South Posts: 3,408	She touched so many lives __________________ Give a man a match, & he'll be warm for 20 seconds. But toss that man a white phosphorus grenade and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

12-27-2016, 11:49 AM	#11
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	I thought sexobon was making a comment to console monster re: her feeling that maybe she could have made more of a difference with Sundae. I don't see how that was out of place. As someone who has spent a lot of effort helping IRL friends who then went on anyway to drink or drug themselves to death, both of their comments resonate for me, and so, in that sense, this thread and the board are doing exactly what it says on the tin. Now, let's chill out before I start a round of Kumbaya. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

12-27-2016, 01:39 PM	#12
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I agree with the Foots. By considering the source's perspective, all the comments seem reasonable to me. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-26-2016, 10:10 PM	#3
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	It may also have something to do with those who have dealt more closely with their own mortality, like monster, and those who have dealt with a lot of unwelcome deaths, like me, having a little different perspective on anyone who insists on throwing their life away.

12-26-2016, 11:54 PM	#6
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	That's all very nice; but, people here may be in competition for attention from those who are giving more in real life. IRL always trumps virtual for the reasons you stated. This venue worked; but, within it's limitations. That's why it's not the venue of choice for everyone who's making differences in people's lives.

12-27-2016, 12:48 AM	#7
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Like I said, it's not FOR that. And this thread is not for this either. Good day sir.

12-27-2016, 01:43 PM	#13
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	And so it goes __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

12-27-2016, 02:08 PM	#14
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	My bad and my apologies.

12-27-2016, 05:47 PM	#15
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	No, not bad nor an apology needed. Everybody gets to voice their opinion. I think you're taking Uncle Ben's wisdom too seriously. smilies aren't working __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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