Merc - Wtf?

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

That's not true, he was confronted for some things he said,

He was not attacked by the same people who now attack Ibby for the same thing, except maybe you.

[xoxoxoBruce]

No, spirited arguments but I don't attack anyone, except rkzenrage.

[Lamplighter]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

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Ibby is another matter, he seems to be developing a habit of telling me
what I can and cannot say, or even think. Hommie don't play dat.

Sure, xoB, what we say/post is up to each of us.
But that is what creates our own personal reputations.
It also has to do with respect for another Dwellar.

If Ibram asks to be called Ibby, is that so different than Brianna
asking to be called Trilby, and for us to use pronouns in sync with their names ?
If it is so difficult make such changes in our vocabularies ?

If that is so hard, should we assume there's more going on than just resistance to PC ?

With regards to what I "think", it seems to me that is exactly what Ibby is trying to change.
First, I don't assume that it's Ibby that needs to be changed by me.
Only with changes in my thinking will the changes follow in my own social behaviors, regardless of the current version of PC.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

Sure, xoB, what we say/post is up to each of us.
But that is what creates our own personal reputations.
It also has to do with respect for another Dwellar.

If Ibram asks to be called Ibby, is that so different than Brianna
asking to be called Trilby, and for us to use pronouns in sync with their names ?
If it is so difficult make such changes in our vocabularies ?

If that is so hard, should we assume there's more going on than just resistance to PC ?

What the fuck are you talking about, I don't give a shit if somebody changes their user name.

With regards to what I "think", it seems to me that is exactly what Ibby is trying to change.

Now that's the rub. When he first started this feminization of Ibram, in here, he was throwing out all these categories and rules that everyone must follow or they being aggressive/oppressive of these groups.

First of all I'm not convinced there are that many subdivisions. Shit, everyone is a little different from everyone else, but everybody doesn't get to whine if people don't follow their personal set of rules. At least not and be taken seriously.

Second, I only know a couple people that fall anywhere in the spectrum, that I know of. The ones I do know is because they told me, and none asked for special treatment. We get along just fine without following any of Ibby's guide to acceptable behavior.

First, I don't assume that it's Ibby that needs to be changed by me.
Only with changes in my thinking will the changes follow in my own social behaviors, regardless of the current version of PC.

I don't want to change him, and he doesn't get demand changes of me.

[Trilby]

merc pretty much got a pass.

UT called him out and so did Jim, and Infini, iirc.

but it was for big, huge things. everything else he said just...washed over everyone like a tide of muck.

Ali----merc certainly didn't need to give all his money to charity, etc., to be considered a 'good person' by me - that's ridiculous. but I DO see that the people he gave gifts to are the ones defending him the loudest. and that's bullshit. He didn't let many people 'see that good side of him' because he hated most of us. He hated me; he hated anyone with a liberal slant (which is why I found it confusing that you two were so tight) but, hey, IF he really isn't coming back, I'm glad. I found him to be a bully, a know-it-all and a provoker. He LOVED to sit back and watch a fight, usually one he started.

I see him as a negative force in the Universe and yes, I want a cuddlefest. I rather like warm and fuzzy people; not shrill haters. But hey, there's no positive without negative, is there? I found him angry, confused, bitter, mean for mean-ness' sake and very, very afraid someone would take away his toys.


That's how I saw it from MY end.

[infinite monkey]

He LOVED to sit back and watch a fight, usually one he started.

Yeah, remember the interminable

[Trilby]

yes.

he fed on darkness. I used to do that, too.

it's much nicer out here in the light.

not so mushroom-y, dank and depressing.

[Aliantha]

lol you girls are so dramatic.

G'night!

[infinite monkey]

Originally Posted by infinite monkey

Yeah, remember the interminable

Originally Posted by Aliantha

lol you girls are so dramatic.

G'night!

I'm up for an Oscar for that role.

[Trilby]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

lol you girls are so dramatic.

G'night!

It's not drama, it's imagination.

[DanaC]

I didn't see Merc get a free pass. I saw him get embroiled in arguments that ended up with lots of people telling him off. I know I had a go at him many times over stuff he said. In particular stuff he said to Ibs.

[Aliantha]

[sexobon]

TheMercenary might come back if a certain someone nominates him to be a moderator.

[footfootfoot]

Originally Posted by sexobon

TheMercenary might come back if a certain someone nominates him to be a moderator.

That made me laugh out loud. for real. I'm a shit stirrer though.

[Big Sarge]

Well, I'm not the best at expressing my thoughts. I still stand behind Merc because he was good to me and I don't forget a kindness. Also, I have great respect for his military career and now his civilian.

Ibby, I came down hard on you and I want you to know I apologize. Your comment about me wrapping myself in the flag made me realize that we are both very passionate about our core beliefs. I need to be more tolerant of others who aren't as "patriotic". Thanks for opening my eyes