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Old 06-19-2010, 12:14 PM   #1
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A few questions I have from watching CNN last night.

Why is a foreign co. drilling in gulf? Well they won the bid. So can China, etc. others bid?

How many deep water rigs does BP own? I have other things to do to answer this.

Cooper (cnn) was talking to a contractor about the rig Atlantis. ( perhaps BP owns 65 % of this rig.)
WTF does this contractor do? Was he a contractor for the cooks, galley hands or cleanup hands? I'll make a wild ass guess that there 50 support contractors involved with a project of that magnitude.
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Old 06-19-2010, 07:34 PM   #2
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Anadarko points finger at BP on Gulf oil spill
HOUSTON (AP) - Anadarko Petroleum Corp., which owns a quarter of BP PLC' (BP)s blown-out oil well in the Gulf of Mexico, late Friday blasted BP "reckless decisions and actions" that led to the well's explosion.
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Old 06-20-2010, 02:28 AM   #3
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Old 06-20-2010, 08:37 AM   #4
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Obamatons blame the spill on "eight years of deregulation under Bush." If Bush "deregulated" oil drilling, why has Obama threatened to prosecute BP for its alleged criminal failure to follow the regulations that Bush supposedly eliminated? If Bush's deregulation caused the spill, how did BP get permission to drill this well two months into the Obama administration – and less than one month after submitting its application?
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Several leftist pundits, in their post-speech analysis, provided comic relief. No specific plan! No timetable! Too much meritocracy! No real power! No command and control!

The same critics now find themselves trapped. They buried President George W. Bush following Hurricane Katrina. They ignored the failure of the first responders and the local and state Democrats to follow existing plans.
Hmm. Looks like somebody saw which major party's adherents were doing the fucking up, doesn't it?

From here.
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Old 06-20-2010, 12:55 PM   #5
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Old 06-21-2010, 01:28 PM   #8
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For those interested in the technical details, and perhaps offering suggestions about potential responses, here's DOE's Deepwater Horizon Response page:
http://www.energy.gov/open/oil_spill_updates.htm

This page contains links to containment system details, drawings of the BOP, well configuration, riser packages, etc. plus some videos, pressure data, and other interesting information:
http://www.energy.gov/open/oilspilldata.htm

Note that the file "Pressure Data within BOP" (xls or ods formats) includes a drawing of the BOP with the pressure labeled at various points.

Even if you're not interested in the technical details, the videos are interesting (and you can watch them in high definition and full screen).
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Old 06-21-2010, 02:17 PM   #9
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If Bush's deregulation caused the spill, how did BP get permission to drill this well two months into the Obama administration – and less than one month after submitting its application?
Completely irrespective of any other context, this is a ridiculous question. These decisions are made by a beaurocracy. In the best of situations for political appointments, Obama wouldn't have had a new MMS in place in a month.

And this is not the best of situations for political appointments.
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Old 06-21-2010, 10:49 PM   #10
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These decisions are made by a beaurocracy. In the best of situations for political appointments, Obama wouldn't have had a new MMS in place in a month.
Considering that Congressional Republicans were obstructing something like 70 Obama appointments, it was difficult to get any agency cleaned up.

MMS knew BOPs failed about 45% of the time. That BOPs were not designed for operation at these depths. That BOPs had numerous single point failures. And that now standards existed to verify BOP operation.

When Obama's people asked MMS for evaluation on deep water drilling, the 200+ page report barely even mentioned BOPs - when that was virtually the only protection for a blow out. The report never once mentioned what was well known in MMS - BOPS were a disaster waiting to happen. Those same MMS people knew BOPs were ineffective in 2003.

It takes time to reeducate people to work for America - not for a political agenda. A problems being addressed in many other agencies beyond MMS. MMS was used to lying even about facts known in 2003. That was the attitude from that White House. Therefore reports in 2009 could not bother to report how dangerous deep water drilling really was. That BOPs routinely failed.

BOPs have only one blind shear. If a pipe joint is at that shear, the pipe cannot be cut and sealed. It happened previously. MMS people knew this had caused previous failures during the 2000s. But the attitude throughout 2000s was, well, Saddam also had WMDs. Honesty was not encouraged when it contradicted the political agenda. White House lawyers even rewrote science papers to agree with their reality.

Cleaning house is required all through government now that we have learned what happens when the political agenda is more important than working for America. When an administration even all but protected bin Laden for a political agenda. MMS is simply the next in a long list of government agencies subverted in the name of their deregulation. Always tell the president only what he wants to hear (right out of Sec of Treasury Paul O’Neill’s book. Conclusions routinely changed by Cheney. One could get fired for telling the truth. MMS knew all through the 2000s that two blind shears were necessary for every BOP. Tests suggested even those would not operate reliable in deep water. So MMS did the administration policy. Stay quiet. Don't create waves.

I was wondering why the deep water drilling was halted for six month. Now I understand. Virtually all BOPs provide ineffective protection. These things have numerous potential single point failures - no redundancy. (Same problem brought down a MN highway bridge.) Throughout the 2000s, MMS never reviewed any of these designs. Now virtually every BOP must be significantly redesigned or scrapped on an emergency basis.

Any BOP that does not have at least two blind shears is virtually useless. About half do not have even that simplest requirement. And almost none are tested at these extreme depths and temperatures.

The industry must redesign everything in six months to fix what should have been corrected and what could not happen for seven years.

But as any good MBA president understands, that was good because profits were higher. Then the economy looked better. Nothing partisan. Just an engineer with contempt for those whose politics all but encourage disaster. They could not even demand a second blind shear - because that contradicted a White House political agenda.

Blind shears. Another smoking gun example of why George Jr administration thought nothing of MMS having sexting parties paid for by the industry.
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Considering that Congressional Republicans were obstructing something like 70 Obama appointments, it was difficult to get any agency cleaned up.


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Another smoking gun example of why George Jr administration thought nothing of MMS having sexting parties paid for by the industry.
I think it is more than 100 appointments obstructed up by secret holds.

And sex and drugs, not sexting.
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Old 06-21-2010, 02:25 PM   #12
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Excellent stuff HLJ.
Irrespective of the partisan crap surrounding it.
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Old 06-21-2010, 09:44 PM   #13
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White House mocks BP CEO's yacht race, defends Obama golf

(AFP) – 6 hours ago

WASHINGTON — A White House spokesman mocked BP's chief executive Monday for attending a luxury yacht race despite the oil spill disaster in the Gulf of Mexico, but then defended President Barack Obama's own weekend golf game.

Tony Hayward, the British energy giant's embattled chief, drew fire from the White House over the weekend for having gone to the yacht race Saturday off the Isle of Wight.

White House spokesman Bill Burton took him to task again on Monday, suggesting that Hayward take part in the cleanup operations in the Gulf of Mexico with the 300,000 euro yacht he co-owns.

"You know, look, if Tony Hayward wants to put a skimmer on that yacht and bring it down to the Gulf, we'd be happy to have his help," Burton said to laughter in the White House briefing room.

"But what's important isn't what Tony Hayward's doing in his free time; it's what BP is doing to take... responsibility for the mess that they've made," he said.

His comments echoed those of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel who called Hawyard's decision to go to the yacht race "part of a long line of PR gaffes and mistakes."

But when asked about Obama's day Saturday, in particular his four hour golf game at a course near Washington, Burton said the president had the right to decompress a bit after a hard week.

"I don't think that there's a person in this country that doesn't think that their president ought to have a little time to clear his mind," Burton said.

"I think that a little time to himself on Father's Day weekend probably does us all good as American citizens," he said.
Whats the difference?
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Old 06-22-2010, 05:45 AM   #14
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Whats the difference?
Golf is less attractive?

This story crossed way over the line into class envy. I'm all for beating up these clowns but this looks like a different agenda.
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Old 06-22-2010, 08:50 AM   #15
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I'm all for beating up these clowns but this looks like a different agenda.
I agree - It looks like the plan is to deflect any and all criticism from the Administration to BP. I find that rather frustrating. There are(at least) two issues here.

1) BP - cause of the spill. No one, NO ONE is denying blame - BP has admitted publicly that they are responsible.

2) Containment and clean up. This is much different and rests solely upon the administration. Obama said repeatedly that he was in charge. Criticism on this facet belongs squarely upon him and this administration... And there is plenty to go around.

That grilling of the BP Exec was a joke - othing more than political grandstanding. A bunch of suits showing how angry they can be.
That was like asking the president of McDonalds if he knew why there were 3 pickles instead of two on the cheeseburger at your local McDs. He has no idea - thats not his job - at all.
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