Hand wringing about Jill leaving. - Page 15

Fair&Balanced · 05-12-2011, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Sarge

How can anyone admit to being a Democrat. It was the party of slavery and opression. Isn't admiting to being a Democrat the same as claiming to be a Nazi (in the overall magnitude of evil)? Nazism was "squashed" in 1945, but Democrats continue to systematically deny civil rights and even commit murders up until the late 1960's.

Democrats = Nazis = Pure Evil

Wouldnt that be like questioning how anyone could be a Republican? It is the party that wants to impose their moral values of all of society and restrict who you can marry, control a woman's reproductive rights, condemn a religion and attempt to limit its practice?

The difference? WAS the party vs IS the party.

classicman · 05-12-2011, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced

Wouldnt that be like questioning how anyone could be a Republican? It is the party that wants to impose their moral values of all of society and restrict who you can marry, control a woman's reproductive rights, condemn a religion and attempt to limit its practice?

The difference? WAS the party vs IS the party.

I'm not an R, but... that's a rather skewed perception.
Thats like saying the Democrats ARE the party of child murderers.

Fair&Balanced · 05-12-2011, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

I'm not an R, but... that's a rather skewed perception.
Thats like saying the Democrats ARE the party of child murderers.

Of course its skewed.

It was a response to a skewed post and skewed view of history to make a point.

Big Sarge · 05-13-2011, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman

I'm not an R, but... that's a rather skewed perception.
Thats like saying the Democrats ARE the party of child murderers.

we learned in school that they were! you mean they lied to us??

lookout123 · 05-12-2011, 06:04 PM

That's helpful.

Big Sarge · 05-12-2011, 08:20 PM

You have to admit it is true. Do you support lynch mobs, segregation, and slavery?

Big Sarge · 05-12-2011, 08:30 PM

How about this:

It makes about as much sense as some of opinions posted about George Bush & Republicans. Everything I said is factual. It all comes down to how you interpret the data

Pete Zicato · 05-12-2011, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Sarge

It makes about as much sense as some of opinions posted about George Bush & Republicans.

OK. And how persuasive did you find those posts?

Big Sarge · 05-12-2011, 08:45 PM

realistically, no one on here will change their political beliefs based upon posts on the cellar. do you??

monster · 05-12-2011, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Sarge

realistically, no one on here will change their political beliefs based upon posts on the cellar. do you??

That's not true. I have been persuaded by the arguments of people here on certain issues. Maybe not to believe what they believe but to modify my opinions/views. Why bother interacting with people if you are not going to consider what they have to say?

Pete Zicato · 05-12-2011, 09:10 PM

I'm open to persuasion on many topics. And yes, I have modified my thinking more than once based on conversations here at the cellar.

If you won't learn from today, what need have you for tomorrow?

DanaC · 05-13-2011, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Sarge

realistically, no one on here will change their political beliefs based upon posts on the cellar. do you??

The Cellar has fundamentally altered my political beliefs.

It has changed my orientation to right-wingers, and given me a different perspective on the left. I am still a socialist. But I have taken on board some of what I've read on here and that has filtered through and changed the tone of that socialism.

Most importantly, it has altered how I see the political divide. Taken alongside recent studies around brain chemistry ad political orientation, the Cellar has made me believe we need both in society.

That realistion, combined with my experiences of party politics, has removed my life-long opposition to PR (proportional representation) and changed my orientation to the first past the post system and the shape of our Parliament.

That is a fairly fundamental change in my political outlook. And the Cellar has been a significant factor in that.

[eta] I pressed reply from the previous page and missed the comments here. Rowr!

monster · 05-12-2011, 09:06 PM

Not many will admit having been won over, perhaps? But I'm pretty sure I've seen others who have conceded points and modified their views accordingly.

Or maybe I was dreaming

glatt · 05-12-2011, 09:11 PM

I've adjusted my views because of posts in the Cellar.

Not recently though. There haven't been too many good political conversations lately.

classicman · 05-12-2011, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete Zicato

I'm open to persuasion on many topics. And yes, I have modified my thinking more than once based on conversations here at the cellar.

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Originally Posted by glatt

I've adjusted my views because of posts in the Cellar.

Not recently though. There haven't been too many good political conversations lately.

thirded.

05-12-2011, 06:04 PM	#5
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	That's helpful. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

05-12-2011, 08:20 PM	#6
Big Sarge Werepandas - lurking in your shadows Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In the Deep South Posts: 3,408	You have to admit it is true. Do you support lynch mobs, segregation, and slavery? __________________ Give a man a match, & he'll be warm for 20 seconds. But toss that man a white phosphorus grenade and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

05-12-2011, 08:30 PM	#7
Big Sarge Werepandas - lurking in your shadows Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In the Deep South Posts: 3,408	How about this: It makes about as much sense as some of opinions posted about George Bush & Republicans. Everything I said is factual. It all comes down to how you interpret the data __________________ Give a man a match, & he'll be warm for 20 seconds. But toss that man a white phosphorus grenade and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

05-12-2011, 08:45 PM	#9
Big Sarge Werepandas - lurking in your shadows Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In the Deep South Posts: 3,408	realistically, no one on here will change their political beliefs based upon posts on the cellar. do you?? __________________ Give a man a match, & he'll be warm for 20 seconds. But toss that man a white phosphorus grenade and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

05-12-2011, 09:10 PM	#11
Pete Zicato Turns out my CRS is a symptom of TMB. Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chicago suburbs Posts: 2,916	I'm open to persuasion on many topics. And yes, I have modified my thinking more than once based on conversations here at the cellar. If you won't learn from today, what need have you for tomorrow? __________________ Talk nerdy to me.

05-12-2011, 09:06 PM	#13
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Not many will admit having been won over, perhaps? But I'm pretty sure I've seen others who have conceded points and modified their views accordingly. Or maybe I was dreaming __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

05-12-2011, 09:11 PM	#14
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I've adjusted my views because of posts in the Cellar. Not recently though. There haven't been too many good political conversations lately.

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