Happy Tax Day!

[Whit]

If they oppose us, they're not good people.

     Just to add a little more to the fanatic point...

[Radar]

Radar, do you believe that the right to keep a well organized militia refers to the right of private citizens to keep and bear arms or that it refers to having a state militia (currently, the coast guard)? Since the West interprets the term in the former way and the Southeast interprets the term in the second way, which segment of the American population is completely and utterly wrong?

First, it's not a right to keep a well organized militia, it's a right for individuals to keep and bear arms because militias are "necessary to the security of a free State". Second, anyone who reads it another way is wrong. As mentioned by someone else, everytime the phrase "the people" is used in the rest of the Constitution, it refers to the general populace. And Thirdly because we all have a right to life, we have a right to defend that life any way we see fit and that includes using guns.

You seem to be quite pro-business, so why do you want to return to a more detrimental tariff-based taxing system?

I would be interested in a very low flat-rate tariff on all trading partners. Right now some pay huge tariffs and some pay no tariffs at all. I'd be talking about 3% across the board which wouldn't be detrimental to business, especially considering the lower labor costs abroad.

If this line makes sesnse to you then you have no clue what actual slavery is, so this is pointless.

Slavery is being forced under duress to labor without compensation. I think we can all agree on that point. So if the guns of government are going to come after me if they don't get the fruits of my labor, it's slavery.

To answer your question yes, I would oppose you. The reason is that I don't believe that you would "return it to a constitutional republic."

If you would oppose me in my efforts to return America to a Constitutional republic, I would kill you plain and simple. Because you would represent those who oppress us, rob us, threaten us, and even murder some of us.

So, to tariff or not to tariff? Which is it?

As I've said, I'm not interested in raising tariffs (protectionism). I'm interested in keeping the same amount of tarifs we already collect but spreading it out evenly and fairly among all those who import good into America.

Just to add a little more to the fanatic point...

I'm not a fanatic in any sense of the word. I am a citizen of America and have popular sovereignty. I DEMAND that the government I've given power to follow the rules set up in the beginning. The government answers to me, not the other way around. The Constitution wasn't created to limit our rights, but to limit the powers of the government. The government will follow the limitations on thier powers listed in the Constitution or blood will be spilled. It's that simple.

[Cam]

If you would oppose me in my efforts to return America to a Constitutional republic, I would kill you plain and simple. Because you would represent those who oppress us, rob us, threaten us, and even murder some of us.

So you want to create a republic based on the Constitution yet are planning on killing those that oppose you. You're one of the most hypocritical people I've ever met.

[Radar]

So you want to create a republic based on the Constitution yet are planning on killing those that oppose you. You're one of the most hypocritical people I've ever met.

I don't plan on creating anything. I plan on returning America to a Constitutional republic and if someone opposes that they are a traitor and traitors should be shot. If people oppose me, they oppose America. There's NOTHING hypocritical, illogical, or wrong about me or any of my values.

If someone opposes the Constitutional Republic of the United States of America, they oppose me to the death and don't deserve to live in this country.

[Cam]

Originally posted by Radar

they oppose me to the death and don't deserve to live in this country.

Funny I was thinking the same thing about you a few days ago. Then I realized that this is America where people with different view points are allowed to have those views. But I must be wrong if someone with such great knowledge of the constitution believes he has the right to kill those that oppose him.

[juju]

So, Radar, do you have any hobbies other than politics? Are you married? What's bartending like? What's one thing your parents did that most aggravated you?

Just curious.

[Radar]

Funny I was thinking the same thing about you a few days ago. Then I realized that this is America where people with different view points are allowed to have those views. But I must be wrong if someone with such great knowledge of the constitution believes he has the right to kill those that oppose him.

Of course you can have different views. You just can't legislate your views when those views contradict the Constitution. And I'm discussing who would die if there were a second American Revolution. I'm not some raving whacko who's going to just grab a machine gun and start indiscriminately killing people because I don't like thier viewpoints.

So, Radar, do you have any hobbies other than politics?

Sure. Juggling, movies, video games, backgammon, etc.

Are you married?

I will be in a few months.

What's bartending like?

It's fun. It's like getting paid to party. You meet cool people and everyone likes you. And you get paid for it. I'm not doing any bartending these days though. I've been making a living with my politics.

What's one thing your parents did that most aggravated you?

Got divorced, beat the hell out of me, treated me like shit, etc.

But the best thing they did for me was teach me to be self-reliant...they taught me how to cook, do laundry, etc. They also taught me from a very young age that I can do or be anything I want. And I truly believe that even still.

How about you juju? What's your favorite color? Your favorite dish? What countries have you been to? How old are you? What music do you like? What bothers you most about the America? What would you do to make it better?

[Whit]

Slavery is being forced under duress to labor without compensation. I think we can all agree on that point. So if the guns of government are going to come after me if they don't get the fruits of my labor, it's slavery.

     Slavery is being owned by another human being. And you repeatedly say you proved, you don't have to pay taxes. Nobody does, according to you. So, look up the word slavery, in a dictionary instead of interpreting it's meaning to be what you want, and decided whether you're being forced to pay taxes or if you don't pay taxes.

If you would oppose me in my efforts to return America to a Constitutional republic, I would kill you plain and simple. Because you would represent those who oppress us, rob us, threaten us, and even murder some of us.

     You've made it clear that if a person doesn't have your opinion then that person is an idiot. Also that they are not good people. Oh, sorry, if they're to afraid to oppose you then they are ok. Hmm, you've threatened, insulted, seek to oppress anyone with a different opinion. Hmm, haven't heard you say you're into robbery outright, but three out of four ain't bad. Yep, sounds like you'd fit right in with such a crowd. Maybe you and Bush should get together sometime and go bowling.

Because you would represent those who oppress us, rob us, threaten us, and even murder some of us.

     Obviously it's I'd oppose you because you've led me to believe you would oppress us, threaten us, and even murder some of us.

As I've said, I'm not interested in raising tariffs

     Uh, yeah. I believe the question was to "tariff, or not to tariff" your link led to a guy that explains why tariffs are bad. You say that limited tariffs are ok. So, why post a link to someone that says otherwise?
     Yeah, you're a fanatic. What's more, you DEMAND the government be shaped by your say so, the constitution references are your own illusion to make you feel better. As far as blood being spilled, it won't happen. You're supposed "Millions" are not going to rise up. You're just being pretentious. Keep ranting. I think it's cute. You big bad internet tough guy you

[perth]

Originally posted by Whit
You big bad internet tough guy you

whit, youre awesome.

~james

[Radar]

Taken from that site:

Obviously it's I'd oppose you because you've led me to believe you would oppress us, threaten us, and even murder some of us.

I've said nothing that would lead anyone to believe I'd oppress anyone. And I only threaten those who threaten the Constitution (which is the same as threatening America) and I would never murder anyone. I might kill someone in my own defense or the defense of my country. But I'd never murder them.

What's more, you DEMAND the government be shaped by your say so, the constitution references are your own illusion to make you feel better.

Try again loser. My Constitutional references are above reproach and are 100% accurate. I don't want the government to be "shaped" by you, me, or anyone else. Unlike the morons who advocate violating the Constitution, I read it for what it says, not what I want it to say.

As far as blood being spilled, it won't happen. You're supposed "Millions" are not going to rise up. You're just being pretentious.

It's already happened. The government has already killed private citizens who opposed their violations of the Constitution. And blood will be spilled, especially if the second patriot act passes. And yes, millions will rise up because there are millions of Americans like me who respect the Constitution and will die to defend our country against our government. I see them every single day. I travel around the country meeting them and doing public speaking engagements. I'll be doing 3 of them in the next 3 days.

Keep ranting. I think it's cute. You big bad internet tough guy you

And keep talking shit. You make yourself look more and more stupid each and every time. It's amazing. I didn't think it was possible for you to look more stupid yet you never disappoint. And if you want to find out how tough this internet guy is, feel free to look me up anytime. I don't start fights, but I always finish them.

[Cam]

And if you want to find out how tough this internet guy is, feel free to look me up anytime. I don't start fights, but I always finish them.

Wow Radar I don't think I could have laughed any harder than I did just now, nearly stained my pants. So in other words you're trying to say "I can beat you up" OMG that is funny.

[juju]

Originally posted by Radar
How about you juju? What's your favorite color? Your favorite dish? What countries have you been to? How old are you? What music do you like? What bothers you most about the America? What would you do to make it better?

Ehh, I don't really have a "favorite color". Most all of them can look really cool if they're used right, I think.

The only other country I've been to is Mexico. It was on a church trip -- one of those deals where they go "witnessing" to people. This basically involves going around knocking on people's doors and harrassing them about religion. We also passed out little "salvation" pamplets to strangers on the street. The interesting thing about it, though, was that not one person ever refused a pamphlet. Whenever one was offered to them, they would just take it and read it. It was really bizarre behavior, not at all what I'm used to -- and I live in the South! I was pretty surprised by the fact that everyone took the time to read some pamphlet that a stranger handed to them. I guess it's just a different culture down there. Or maybe they just hadn't been barraged by commercialism yet?

That was probably when I was around 16, and I'm 27 now. Anyway, I found that Christianity didn't really have the answers I was looking for, and I found the church culture to be somewhat offensive. They were supposed to be addressing all these big questions, but really it was more like a big party. What a waste of time.

Then, between the ages of 18-24, I was deeply into witchcraft and thought I was a powerful demi-god. Fun stuff!

Today I'm completly different than all that, though. I'm pretty much the most anti-religious person you could ever know, mostly because of my experiences with what faith can do to a person.

I really love listening to progressive rock, like Rush, Yes, and Dream Theater. Any music that's reasonably complicated has the potential to hold my interest, though. I like it when I can listen to a song over and over again, and catch a new nuance every time. You know, like songs that have layers of complexity. Most of the popular music just seems to loop the same riff over and over again. That's fun for a while, but it just seems to get old quickly.

The thing that bothers me most about America.. Well, it does have a lot of flaws, so I guess there's plenty to choose from. The fact that everyone seems to think it's the greatest nation on earth is really irritating. If the people who said this had actually done hard research into every other nation on earth and really made an informed decision, that would be okay. But most of it seems to amount to nothing more that high-school football team rah-rah. It's like, the group that you're a member of is automatically the best just because you're a member of it.

I do like America, though, don't get me wrong. There are a ton of really, really awesome things about it. But the problem I have is that more often than not, Patriotism stems from "It's good because I live here", and not, "It's good because of X, Y, and Z".

The other thing I dislike is that Corporations have too much power. I'm not sure what could be done about this, because we do need to have a Free Market and we need the goods they produce. But the fact that they can railroad politics the way they do is just terrible.

Congratulations on getting married! I'll be celebrating my 1st wedding anniversery in about a month and a half, and I'll have a helpless, newborn child in early November. Whodathunk it? We had an outside wedding, behind my mom's house. I'm really not much into church, and I wanted it to be more of a relaxed atmosphere. It worked out really well, too. It was like one big, casual party. Not formal and stuffy at all.

Originally posted by Radar
It's fun. It's like getting paid to party. You meet cool people and everyone likes you. And you get paid for it. I'm not doing any bartending these days though. I've been making a living with my politics.

I was always uncomfortable in bars because I don't drink (I consider it a form of voluntary mind control). But I imagine that would be fun. I'd have a sense of ownership of the place, too -- like everybody was just partying at my place.

What kind of political job do you have? Are you working for the Libertarian Party? Any idea who the next Libertarian presidential candidate will be?

[Cam]

I keep thinking I would like to bartend next year, I think my mother would kill me if I started doing that though. How did you get into that Radar, did you know a lot about making drinks before you started, or did they pretty much teach you how to make the most popular drinks and then set you loose.

[Radar]

So in other words you're trying to say "I can beat you up" OMG that is funny.

No, that's not what I was saying in other words. What I was saying is someone is acting like I write checks with my mouth that my ass can't cash. All I'm saying is my bank account is full and I've never bounced a check. I don't look for fights, but I don't run away either.

The other thing I dislike is that Corporations have too much power. I'm not sure what could be done about this, because we do need to have a Free Market and we need the goods they produce

It would be nice if we had a free market, but sadly politically influencial Corporations and corrupt politicians have turned our markets into protectionist mercantilism.

Like you, I think that true patriotism means keeping a watchful eye on government and ensuring they don't step beyond their authority. Also I detest people who say bullshit things like, "love it or leave it" and ignore the glaring problems here. The cheerleader mentality you spoke of is disgusting in many ways.

The witchcraft thing is strange. I listened to a bit of gothic and punk in college but never did the white face thing. I don't have to. I'm Irish.

Congrats on the new kid. I hope that works out well for you. I hope this marriage works out better than my first. My new wife is from Vietnam. I met here while I was there on vacation a couple of years ago. Unlike many of the ignorant people who support socialism or communism, I've personally seen the damage it does.

What kind of political job do you have? Are you working for the Libertarian Party? Any idea who the next Libertarian presidential candidate will be?

Mostly I've been doing legal paperwork for people having trouble with the IRS or State Tax collectors. I've also been managing an office, and travelling to freedom rallys, forums, etc. to sell books, videos, cd's, tapes, etc. and to give away lots of flyers, audio cd's, and other information about what's happening. I also attend a lot of Libertarian events. I'll be speaking at one in May. I'm not working for the LP at the moment, but I have in the past and most likely will in the future before I'm elected to public office.

Several people are trying for the Libertarian Presidential ticket. My favorite is Bill Masters. He's a Colorado Sheriff who has been re-elected several times. He's extremely intelligent, but unlike Harry Browne he doesn't sound like a Political Science professor. He's got a lot of "folksy" charm. He reminds me of Andy Griffith. He says things like, "I'm just a small town Sheriff but even I know that the drug war is wrong..."

Check him out at:

http://libertybill.net/home.html


There's a Judge in Southern California who just joined the party and wants to go for the Libertarian Ticket too. Judge Gray is in Orange County. I don't know if he'll have as much appeal to the public though.

[Torrere]

Do you interpret the Second Amendment, when it says "necessary to the security of a free State", to refer to preservation of the independences of States confronted with a strong central government, which would be done by permitting the states to keep militias, or the freedoms of the people? I feel that the first interpretation has some credence given how many supporters there were of partially autonomous states at the time of the writing of the Constitution (eg; United States), and precedents that this view has in Europe (until the consolidation under absolutist monarchies, which were viewed as being terrible nations for the citizens to live in).



Um, you included a quote opposing tariffs. I am somewhat confused.

Originally posted by Radar
My Constitutional references are above reproach and are 100% accurate.

Wow. That is incredible if true. Are we arguing with God?