Osama Bin Laden is Dead!!! - Page 14

dmg1969 · 05-05-2011, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

The CIA has a tip that your mom has information that will prevent you or me from getting killed. The information might not be accurate, but they have to waterboard her, just to make sure.

Oh please, you act like they just grab random people off the street and waterboard them to see if they know anything. While I am not saying that a few innocent people may have been caught up in it, the vast majority are there for a reason. And by the way, my Mom doesn't travel to the middle-east or hang around known or suspected terrorists so I think she's safe. I'll be sure to ask her on Sunday when I see her for Mother's Day...just to be sure.

DanaC · 05-05-2011, 07:12 AM

From what i read (there's a link somewhere around here) the information was not given up during that 'enhanced' interrogation. It was given up much later under normal interrogation techniques.

As to whether or not it's worth it if it prevents more terrorist attacks, that relies rather heavily on the idea that the person being tortured has any information to give up. I have serious doubts as to the terrorist credentials of most of the people who passed through Guantanamo's gates. Several of my countrymen were captured and tortured, sorry no interrogated with the above methods, seemingly on very little (read no) evidence.

dmg1969 · 05-05-2011, 07:25 AM

I highly doubt that every detainee in Gitmo was waterboarded...only those deemed to likely have valuable information. No justice system is perfect. I'm sure there are people in Gitmo who shouldn't be, but that is true of any prison anywhere is the world.

I have to believe Rep. King when he says that KSM revealed information on the courier who ultimately led us to bin Laden's doorstep. And I'm fine with that. We agree to disagree. It's all good.

DanaC · 05-05-2011, 08:10 AM

I think the difference between Gitmo and 'any prison anywhere in the world' is that most of those in other prisons have been convicted of a crime.

dmg1969 · 05-05-2011, 08:16 AM

Agreed, but you can't lump enemy combatants in the same category as civilian criminals. We can't arrest them, have them pay bail and promise to show up for court. Anyone in Gitmo is not there for mugging an old lady or shoplifting...they have direct or indirect ties to terrorism.

Uday · 05-05-2011, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dmg1969

Agreed, but you can't lump enemy combatants in the same category as civilian criminals. We can't arrest them, have them pay bail and promise to show up for court. Anyone in Gitmo is not there for mugging an old lady or shoplifting...they have direct or indirect ties to terrorism.

People are remanded without bail all the time. They still get trials.

DanaC · 05-05-2011, 08:29 AM

Some of them weren't combatants. Their connection to terrorism may just be geographical proximity to the areas where battles were fought.

classicman · 05-05-2011, 09:32 AM

This morning on MSNBC they reported that the three men who were killed were NOT armed.
Then this from The WSJ -

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The Pakistani official said bin Laden's 12-year-old daughter, who is among those in Pakistani custody,
told authorities the Americans took two people when they left, including bin Laden.
U.S. officials say bin Laden's body was the only one removed from the scene.

From armed, to human shields, to some undefined resistance, to this...
I am really confused as to why any info was given in the first place and why the story from the Admin keeps changing.

infinite monkey · 05-05-2011, 10:13 AM

A Q-tip? My mom always has Q-tips.

Nirvana · 05-05-2011, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey

A Q-tip? My mom always has Q-tips.

Just don't stick them in your ear...

like no one does that

infinite monkey · 05-05-2011, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Nirvana

Just don't stick them in your ear...

like no one does that

Eargasm!

plthijinx · 05-05-2011, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey

Eargasm!

so earwax is essentially the cum of the ear??

glatt · 05-05-2011, 11:38 AM

A bigger version of that Princess's hat picture.

I'm actually really impressed with this. Whoever did this took the time to collect several different pictures of the hat so they could put it correctly on everyone's head, according to the angle in relation to the camera.

DanaC · 05-05-2011, 11:42 AM

infinite monkey · 05-05-2011, 12:10 PM

Ali, I thought you would love this video. Not everyone is dancing in the streets, that's for sure. This kid looks like a downright noodge! As I mentioned yesterday, I've heard nary a word on this campus. Takes all kinds.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/off...ant.cnn?hpt=T2

05-05-2011, 07:25 AM	#3
dmg1969 I got nothing Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Central PA Posts: 486	I highly doubt that every detainee in Gitmo was waterboarded...only those deemed to likely have valuable information. No justice system is perfect. I'm sure there are people in Gitmo who shouldn't be, but that is true of any prison anywhere is the world. I have to believe Rep. King when he says that KSM revealed information on the courier who ultimately led us to bin Laden's doorstep. And I'm fine with that. We agree to disagree. It's all good. __________________ Void where prohibited. Your results may vary. Not intended for resale. Do not remove tag. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear.

05-05-2011, 08:16 AM	#5
dmg1969 I got nothing Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Central PA Posts: 486	Agreed, but you can't lump enemy combatants in the same category as civilian criminals. We can't arrest them, have them pay bail and promise to show up for court. Anyone in Gitmo is not there for mugging an old lady or shoplifting...they have direct or indirect ties to terrorism. __________________ Void where prohibited. Your results may vary. Not intended for resale. Do not remove tag. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear.

05-05-2011, 11:38 AM	#13
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	A bigger version of that Princess's hat picture. I'm actually really impressed with this. Whoever did this took the time to collect several different pictures of the hat so they could put it correctly on everyone's head, according to the angle in relation to the camera. Attached Images

05-05-2011, 10:13 AM	#9
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	A Q-tip? My mom always has Q-tips.

05-05-2011, 12:10 PM	#15
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	Ali, I thought you would love this video. Not everyone is dancing in the streets, that's for sure. This kid looks like a downright noodge! As I mentioned yesterday, I've heard nary a word on this campus. Takes all kinds. http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/off...ant.cnn?hpt=T2

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