Ye Olde Videoe Clippe Threade - Page 138

footfootfoot · 12-26-2009, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Did you notice... that the first time the girl draws the shape, it isn't something she's imagined drawing? The second time, she imagines a kite, draws a diamond, and gets a kite. The third time, she imagines a lollypop, draws a curly thingie, and gets the vortex.

The first time I watched it I saw it that way, the second and third time, I read it as all of the things were being suggested to her by the pencil. Her expression didn't seem to me that she was imagining. I don't know why.

Does this suggest that the pencil helped her imagine something she wanted, and then helped her imagine something *it* wanted? Is this a morality tale? Possibly. I think the pencil was feeding her (no pun intended) the ideas and coming up with things that she would / might think of herself.

Did you notice how differently you feel about the pencil's smile? When the girl draws the kite, and flies it, the pencil is pictured looking up in the sky, and momentarily you wonder if it's happy for her and having fun with her. Is it smiling for its own joy at the end?

Yes and no. The pencil's smile was disturbed and disturbing. I did notice that the only change or movement in it was when the pencil looked downwards with one eye, perhaps indicating that the girl should pick it up.

Also what I found difficult to assign meaning to the pencils expression was that there were what might be considered lapses in continuity. (I say lapses rather than errors, because I don't know what was intended.)

E.g. The direction of the face changes within a scene between camera angles when no real time has passed. The pencil is on her right and then the camera angle changes and the pencil is on her left. Maybe she crossed it over, but there seems to be a moment missing.

At other times the pencil is face down or up or sideways, always with the same expression. Does this indicate that the pencil is unconcerned about what is going on because it is ultimately in control of everything and doesn't need to monitor what is happening?

I don't see any change in the pencil's expression so I wouldn't attribute joy to it. I have almost a more nihilistic interpretation to it. Not in the sense that "life sucks and then you die" but more in the sense that the outcome is inevitable, therefore joy or any emotion about it is irrelevant.

Did you notice that the vortex is in the shape and color of a pencil tip?

Again, yes and no. I thought it had a bit of a curve to it, more like an old phonograph horn but, yes, certainly graphite colored.

Did you notice that the sound the vortex seems to make is the same sound generated when the pencil creates an item?

Similar. When it eats her it is louder and slightly longer duration, but I have crappy speakers, so I may be missing a lot on the audio end.

Did you notice that the pencil looks into the vortex at the end? Did you notice the vortex quiver?

Yeah, I thought it was like a drum skin, hence the sound. This also reinforced my seeing it as a horn or some sort of ear canal or something.

Did you notice that the film ended by cutting to black just as you were looking into the vortex from the same perspective as the girl? Did you notice that the sound didn't end at the same cut to black, suggesting to the mind that maybe it's not "over" when it goes black? Does this suggest that you were sucked into the vortex? Does this suggest that the morality tale applies to you?

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes and drew him down to me so he could feel my breasts all perfume yes and his heart was going like mad and yes I said yes I will Yes.

Sorry, I got distracted. You were saying something about morality?

If so, damn, son, you're good... you figured out what it took me like 10 viewings to see.

Not really, I've been in the industry a long time and I went to school for this sort of thing. Plus I did a lot of shrooms when I was younger.

Happy Monkey · 01-08-2010, 01:02 PM

Flint · 01-08-2010, 01:33 PM

Thank you for bein' a friend.

capnhowdy · 01-14-2010, 06:31 AM

I doubt this cat ever gets airborne.

Shawnee123 · 01-14-2010, 08:06 PM

I loved that video, capn. I swear that cat was smiling! It reminded me of my Toonces, except for his coloring.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-15-2010, 01:26 AM

Steam powered airplane.

freshnesschronic · 01-15-2010, 07:38 AM

please, laugh and be offended

xoxoxoBruce · 01-15-2010, 08:45 AM

I laughed... but sorry, I'm not offended.

monster · 01-15-2010, 08:48 AM

doncha just love youtube. does that really go on for 9 minutes? ouch.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-15-2010, 09:16 AM

Yes, but 9 minutes of action packed entertainment.

monster · 01-15-2010, 09:23 AM

now that was almost funny

lumberjim · 01-15-2010, 09:23 AM

Undertoad · 01-15-2010, 07:13 PM

S' good acting work, not deserving of the double face palm

lumberjim · 01-15-2010, 07:47 PM

sez you

xoxoxoBruce · 01-16-2010, 11:12 PM

Box of Wine + Microwave oven... what could go wrong?

01-08-2010, 01:02 PM	#2
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01-08-2010, 01:33 PM	#3
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01-14-2010, 08:06 PM	#5
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	I loved that video, capn. I swear that cat was smiling! It reminded me of my Toonces, except for his coloring. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

01-15-2010, 01:26 AM	#6
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Steam powered airplane. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-15-2010, 07:38 AM	#7
freshnesschronic Professor Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,555	please, laugh and be offended

01-15-2010, 08:45 AM	#8
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I laughed... but sorry, I'm not offended. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-15-2010, 08:48 AM	#9
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	doncha just love youtube. does that really go on for 9 minutes? ouch. __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

01-15-2010, 09:16 AM	#10
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Yes, but 9 minutes of action packed entertainment. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-15-2010, 09:23 AM	#11
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	now that was almost funny __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

01-15-2010, 09:23 AM	#12
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01-15-2010, 07:13 PM	#13
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	S' good acting work, not deserving of the double face palm

01-15-2010, 07:47 PM	#14
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	sez you __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

01-16-2010, 11:12 PM	#15
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Box of Wine + Microwave oven... what could go wrong? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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