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Achille's other heel.
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New study: Recent natural gas fracking operations have tainted the ground water, but it's actually good news, because it's the well casings that are to blame and they can be fixed.
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Well they banned it in Denton, TX. the place where it was started.
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HUmm maybe intercorse Spell check
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New York takes the wrong approach to ‘fracking’
Fracking’s risks concern water and air contamination. States should control where and how wastewater is disposed of, require robust wells that are resistant to blowouts, demand that drillers prevent methane and volatile organic compounds from escaping into the air and regulate leaks from storage facilities and well sites. States such as Colorado have developed rules with sensitivity both to industry and to environmental concerns. The Obama administration is developing its own, national fracking rules, too. That’s the model to follow — not New York’s.
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He figures it'll be worth more later, after the others have petered out, and he's out of office so he can belly up to the trough, too.
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Cuomo is the slimiest character to come out of New York politics in a while, always look for another rea$on for any policy.
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As Mr Wonderful on Shark Tank says, "It's about the money, it's always about the money, all the time."
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from here Colorado: yellow dots = violatlons green lines = water sheds lavender = shale plays tan areas = shale basins orange dots = horizontal wells Pennsylvania: yellow dots = violations green lines = water sheds lavender area = EIA shale play purple dots = permits Maybe Kentucky doesn't have problems ... yet, but government prevention of coal ash problems hasn't set a good example. |
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I tried to figure out what a "violation" is LL, do you have any insight on that?
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Since some maps on that link are showing "permits issued", I have to assume a violation is in terms of how each State defines those permits. Some maps show "contamination sites" which may be more self-evident. There is a diversity of information among these maps, so I would not attempt to compare the numbers of violation in one state with the numbers in another state. |
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A few years ago when we were looking for a nursing home for my FIL, we looked at the state records for each. Every single place had tons of violations. One of them had a violation for letting a dementia patient wander out and get lost on the streets for a day, but most of them had violations like not having a DNR form in a holder on the back of a patient's room door.
You want there the be no violations, but there are violations and then there are violations. I imagine it's similar here. You don't want contaminated aquifers. That would be a big deal. But if a delivery truck has a shipment invoice with the wrong date on top, maybe that's not such a big deal. |
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Glatt, I'm not sure your examples are analogous, but I agree that there are levels of "violations",
particularly when the comparison is between management of a single business operation and an industry made up of many different "operators". But maybe I would say that preventing a violation is much more important than trying to or having to remedy a violation that has already happened. There may be no remediation of a contaminated aquifer, especially one used for drinking water. For example, the aquifer feeding into the Columbia River from the Hanford Reservation (atomic bomb era) is almost certainly beyond remedy. P.S. Not having a DNR in the patient's file may well lead to a very nasty situation... that may not have a good solution. |
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