computer problem - Page 13

lumberjim · 02-28-2010, 11:06 AM

well...it worked (burning the disc, that is) 7.2 lbs of shit on a 7 lb disc

lumberjim · 02-28-2010, 11:12 AM

tw · 02-28-2010, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Zicato

MB - are the hard drive controllers built into the motherboard on laptops?

Hard drive controllers disappeared when MFM disk drives were replaced with IDE drives. When the ISA bus was replaced with a PCI bus.

Each disk drive is a computer. Between the motherboard computer (PCI bus) and disk drive computer is a transceiver, bidirectonal data gate, or an interface between two asynchronous buses. The motherboard CPU literally sends and receives messages from the disk drive computer.

One of the disk drives must be a master. Something must control / arbitrate the IDE or SATA bus. That is the master drive. On IDE busses, that master drive always has an address of 80h. Therefore the motherboard CPU can send commands to both disk drives. Both drives can be doing tasks. But only one drive responds when it is ready.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Zicato

It would be interesting to know though, whether your windows install cd gives you the option to try to fix the os.

The Recovery Console is (is supposed to exist) on the Windows install CD. It does not exist on a computer manufacturer's fast restore CD that only wipes the disk drive completely clean and loads only a new OS image. That OS image is Windows after the computer manufacturer has reconfigured it unique to their machine.

Some manufacturers wanted you to burn a windows install CD when you got the machine. Too many users do not or forget to burn that CD. If you did not did not burn that windows install CD, then no Recovery Console exists on a CD. Windows install software is both on the provided or burned CD, and often on a separate partition on the hard drive. Only better systems provide the Windows install CD.

Only the best computer manufacturers also provide comprehensive hardware diagnostics on a CD, on another partition on the hard drive, and on their web site. Had Sony provided same, then most of yesterdays labors would have been completely unnecessary. From what I could see, Sony does not provide that comprehensive hardware diagnostic that Sony and all other computer manufacturer have, could, and should provide for free.

A benchmark for better computer systems. If that manufacture does not provide comprehensive hardware diagnostics, then done buy the machine. This thread demonstrates how complex problems become without it. Hard drive integrity (including SATA or IDE bidriectional interface) could have been established in minutes is Sony provided the comprehensive hardware diagnostic.

mbpark · 02-28-2010, 03:10 PM

Jim,

Did that work. Does it boot now?

mbpark · 02-28-2010, 03:13 PM

Jim,

You see that 290GB unallocated drive?

Right-click and assign it a drive letter, then run CHKDSK on it.

lumberjim · 02-28-2010, 03:32 PM

didnt try to boot it yet

right click unallocated drive gets me: properties, create new partition, and help

lumberjim · 02-28-2010, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbpark

Jim,

Did that work. Does it boot now?

tried to boot....

got "operating system not found"

re loading ubcd

going to take a quick shower and wait to see if i should 'create a new partition'

mbpark · 02-28-2010, 03:44 PM

Lumberjim,

Don't create a new partition. See if you can use one of the partition repair tools to recover yours!

Creating a new partition = BAD. You probably need to fix the partition entry.

lumberjim · 02-28-2010, 03:52 PM

partition tool choices:

bootbuild

easus partition manager
mbr fix
mbr wizard
photo rec
test disk

mbpark · 02-28-2010, 03:57 PM

Let's try Easeus PM and see what it finds.

lumberjim · 02-28-2010, 04:02 PM

it shows the c recovery drive ands that unallocated drive...i hit properties and get this

no obvious way to rename the partition....i cannot select the button that says label

lumberjim · 02-28-2010, 04:03 PM

test disk says:

mbpark · 02-28-2010, 04:11 PM

Let's try MBRFix and Fix/Update a Vista Type MBR Code.

lumberjim · 02-28-2010, 04:16 PM

drive 0?
drive 1?
drive 2?
drive 3?

lumberjim · 02-28-2010, 04:33 PM

after running that on all of those drives. I re ran the easeus partition manager....

now i only see the unallocated drive. the c: recovery no longer appears

02-28-2010, 11:06 AM	#181
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	well...it worked (burning the disc, that is) 7.2 lbs of shit on a 7 lb disc __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

02-28-2010, 11:12 AM	#182
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	__________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

02-28-2010, 03:32 PM	#186
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	didnt try to boot it yet right click unallocated drive gets me: properties, create new partition, and help __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

02-28-2010, 03:52 PM	#189
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	partition tool choices: bootbuild easus partition manager mbr fix mbr wizard photo rec test disk __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

02-28-2010, 04:02 PM	#191
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	it shows the c recovery drive ands that unallocated drive...i hit properties and get this no obvious way to rename the partition....i cannot select the button that says label __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

02-28-2010, 03:10 PM	#184
mbpark Lecturer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 761	Jim, Did that work. Does it boot now?

02-28-2010, 03:13 PM	#185
mbpark Lecturer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 761	Jim, You see that 290GB unallocated drive? Right-click and assign it a drive letter, then run CHKDSK on it.

02-28-2010, 03:44 PM	#188
mbpark Lecturer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 761	Lumberjim, Don't create a new partition. See if you can use one of the partition repair tools to recover yours! Creating a new partition = BAD. You probably need to fix the partition entry.

02-28-2010, 03:57 PM	#190
mbpark Lecturer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 761	Let's try Easeus PM and see what it finds.

02-28-2010, 04:03 PM	#192
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	test disk says: __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

02-28-2010, 04:11 PM	#193
mbpark Lecturer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 761	Let's try MBRFix and Fix/Update a Vista Type MBR Code.

02-28-2010, 04:16 PM	#194
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	drive 0? drive 1? drive 2? drive 3? __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

02-28-2010, 04:33 PM	#195
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	after running that on all of those drives. I re ran the easeus partition manager.... now i only see the unallocated drive. the c: recovery no longer appears __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

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