Since you own a gun... - Page 13

Spexxvet · 10-19-2006, 01:36 PM

My error, correcting

Spexxvet · 10-19-2006, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL

I'm perfectly willing to have the government collect taxes to pay for law enforcement; that is a proper function of government.

Collectivist!

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Originally Posted by MaggieL

that is a proper function of government.

Of course everybody has their own perspective on the proper function of government, don't they?

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Originally Posted by MaggieL

Oh, by the way, your sig line is totally bogus.

Heinlein never, ever said that. You've confused him with Asimov's character in the Foundation series, Hari Seldon. Which pretty much indicates you haven't read much Heinlien...or if you did you didn't inhale
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It must be ereassuring for you to never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever admit to being incorrect.

lhatcher · 10-19-2006, 02:11 PM

I would kill someone to avoid being killed myself or to defend my family from being killed, but I sure would think first about how to RUN AWAAYYY (monty python) because I would really hate to kill someone and have that on my conscience but also because explaining it, defending my actions, and basically trying to fix the problem caused by having killed someone would be such a royal pain.. I'd rather avoid that.

MaggieL · 10-19-2006, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

It must be ereassuring for you to never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever admit to being incorrect.

I've admitted it on as many occasions as I'm aware of having been incorrect. Sorry that getting caught misquoting upsets you so much you have to wave a red herring around.

There's little point in having laws if there's no way to enforce them...which is what much urban crime is demonstrating. If beleving in the US Constitution (read the preamble again) makes me a collectivist, then I'm guilty. But there's plenty of *real* collectivists here on the Cellar.

Happy Monkey · 10-19-2006, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL

Heinlein never, ever said that. You've confused him with Asimov's character in the Foundation series, Hari Seldon. Which pretty much indicates you haven't read much Heinlien...or if you did you didn't inhale

Did Seldon say it? I thought it was a politician later in the series, Salvor Hardin. Though I wouldn't be surprised if one of the prequels had Seldon "pre-say" it later on.

MaggieL · 10-19-2006, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by lhatcher

I'd rather avoid that.

Which is the origin of the expression "I'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by six."

MaggieL · 10-19-2006, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Did Seldon say it? I thought it was a politician later in the series, Salvor Hardin. Though I wouldn't be surprised if one of the prequels had Seldon "pre-say" it later on.

That's the attribution I have seen most often. While I have read a fair amount of Asimov (I have a personally autographed copy of "Opus 100"), I confess I never got far into the Foundation books without falling asleep.

But I do know my Heinlien.

BrianR · 10-19-2006, 06:51 PM

I've read the whole series and I do believe that HM is correct, the saying appeared on a sign in Mayor Hardin's office.

Spexxvet · 10-19-2006, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL

I've admitted it on as many occasions as I'm aware of having been incorrect. Sorry that getting caught misquoting upsets you so much you have to wave a red herring around.
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A red herring would be to comment on a signature line in the middle of a debate about guns. That's real hard to grasp, though, isn't it, for a hypocrit.

Urbane Guerrilla · 10-19-2006, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

I really hate it when I agree with what you, or anyone, are saying, but you descend to making such a point acting like this, name calling and such.
There is no need, it does harm to the debate.

Rkzen, when a man's knowledge of gun rights is as inadequate as tw's is, there's a reason for it. This man tw, for his own twisted reasons, is trying to get people killed -- people who don't need to die. That's immoral, and it's stone evil.

"People" includes you and me.

Name calling is the least I can do! When tw acts that loathesomely, that consistently, and someone else calls him on it and tells him what kind of creature he's become -- there are grounds somehow to object?

Therefore, I protest at your protestation. In other circumstances, you'd be right; this isn't one of them.

10-19-2006, 11:47 PM

Really? Please enlighten me as to what it accomplishes?

MaggieL · 10-20-2006, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

A red herring would be to comment on a signature line in the middle of a debate about guns.

Not when the sig purports to address the issue at hand.

mrnoodle · 10-20-2006, 10:03 AM

Learn to do this.

10-20-2006, 10:29 AM

My draw with a peacemaker is very fast, but not that fast. Of course I never had the benefit of having my film sped-up.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-20-2006, 09:48 PM

Hey, I could do that....I'm good at being slapped.

10-19-2006, 01:36 PM	#181
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	My error, correcting __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

10-19-2006, 02:11 PM	#183
lhatcher Go, you might meet someone Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 77	I would kill someone to avoid being killed myself or to defend my family from being killed, but I sure would think first about how to RUN AWAAYYY (monty python) because I would really hate to kill someone and have that on my conscience but also because explaining it, defending my actions, and basically trying to fix the problem caused by having killed someone would be such a royal pain.. I'd rather avoid that. __________________ Okay it's just me.. be nice, okay?

10-20-2006, 10:03 AM	#193
mrnoodle bent Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: under the weather Posts: 2,656	Learn to do this. __________________ Sìn a nall na cuaranan sin. -- Cha mhór is fheairrde thu iad, tha iad coltach ri cat air a dhathadh

10-20-2006, 09:48 PM	#195
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Hey, I could do that....I'm good at being slapped. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-19-2006, 06:51 PM	#188
BrianR Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,338	I've read the whole series and I do believe that HM is correct, the saying appeared on a sign in Mayor Hardin's office.

10-19-2006, 11:47 PM	#191
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Really? Please enlighten me as to what it accomplishes?

10-20-2006, 10:29 AM	#194
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	My draw with a peacemaker is very fast, but not that fast. Of course I never had the benefit of having my film sped-up.

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