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Old 12-08-2006, 11:12 AM   #181
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"forward speed"
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Relative to what? Not stated.
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If it's not stated, then it's relative to where it was and nothing else.
The surface it's on, or the surface next to the surface it's on? Not stated.
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:16 AM   #182
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It is simpler to have one point-of-view. But the question doesn't state which one. It's unanswerable.
OK. It's simpler to have one point of view.

Are you saying the question is written from one single point of view?
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:17 AM   #183
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No, if it's not stated you can't chose what to relate it to, that's adding to the question. It can only be relative to where it was if it moved, which the question states it did.
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:21 AM   #184
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"where it was"
It was on the treadmill.
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:22 AM   #185
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Are you saying the question is written from one single point of view?
Ask the question. The point is: The question can only be what it is, nothing more.
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:24 AM   #186
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It dosn't matter what the speed is because it is 'matched' by the treadmill. There is an equal and opposite momentum.


That's what the question said.

...> It the treadmill is made to match the forward speed of the plane, only in the opposite direction.
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:25 AM   #187
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The question does not define "forward speed" in a way that makes the question answerable.
It doesn't have to. Only one of the interpretations is physically possible. Reality isn't an additional assumption.
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:28 AM   #188
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Only one of the interpretations is physically possible.
The question doesn't ask you to explain how the hypothetical treadmill accomplishes what is stated.
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:33 AM   #189
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Occam's razor.

I choose not to include a magic treadmill.
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:34 AM   #190
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As Flint is saying, there are two different ways to look at the problem. I think that scenario #1 is difficult to achieve in the real world.
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:40 AM   #191
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Scenario #1 is not possible. That is something that you have to factor in to the question. Like a math proof, if you follow one assumption, and it leads to a contradiction, you can eliminate that possibility.
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:41 AM   #192
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I choose not to include a magic treadmill.
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:54 AM   #193
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Ok, first of all, don't ask Cecil. Beanie may know the answer, but Cecil won't




Now, concerning Labrat's ass ... I mean bicycle analogy, one thing is missing. The airport moving walkway would speed up to counteract the push that you give the bike.
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:58 AM   #194
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I'm so out of this thread once it passes the 200th post. mark my words.
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Old 12-08-2006, 12:02 PM   #195
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I'm so tempted to make six consecutive posts, but I'll be nice and leave it at one.
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