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Flint · 05-06-2011, 06:31 PM

I haven’t said anything (not one single thing!) about how someone interprets a news story, or their knowledge thereof. Double-check if you like.

The manipulation I have been referring to is the fact that this story was on the news to begin with. That has, in fact, been stated in every sentence of every post that I have made. You can choose to remain purposefully obtuse, if you like. Again, people are free to make their own decisions.

DanaC · 05-06-2011, 06:40 PM

By that logic we shouldn't discuss anything that has been in the news.

BigV · 05-06-2011, 06:42 PM

Glad you're sticking with me Flint. Because only *now* do I understand (my third understanding) of your point. You're point is "... (something/someone/all of us.... um??) is being manipulated by the existence of a story in the media.

You've been much, much clearer in the past. The fucking *math* question was clearer than this.

Aliantha · 05-06-2011, 06:46 PM

So should we all say how clever you are because you've said what we all knew in the first place anyway Flint? We've had massive discussions on this board about the news is reported differently depending on the sources' political affiliations.

My question to you is this. Why would you choose this particular thread to get in an extra couple of digs at Jill when there are a hundred other threads and posters to which you could have posted the same thing?

Clearly jill expressed why she was upset with the content of the article. I personally give her enough credit to realize that it may not have been reported and then she may never have known. I suspect that it's going to be all over the news now anyway though, so really, what's your point Flint?

Flint · 05-06-2011, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha

So should we all...

No, you should all fuck off.

Except BigV.

Aliantha · 05-06-2011, 06:52 PM

lol...sorry. No can do.

Again, I know what your point was, but I'd still like to know why you decided to have a go at Jill with it when there were others who were less upset about a previous confrontation who you could have bothered with it.

Flint · 05-06-2011, 06:54 PM

I read a post and replied to it. That is all.

I don't know who or what you're talking about in regards to a "previous confrontation" and I truly, deeply, do not care. On principle.

Aliantha · 05-06-2011, 06:55 PM

Well I guess we should expect to see the same post quite a few more times then?

Flint · 05-06-2011, 06:58 PM

Don't bother yourself with having expectations of me. I don't, of you.

Aliantha · 05-06-2011, 06:58 PM

Awesome!

footfootfoot · 05-06-2011, 07:15 PM

Received information as opposed to personal discovery.

Aliantha · 05-06-2011, 07:36 PM

All information has to be received/acquired one way or another. It's how that information is disseminated that leads to personal discovery.

footfootfoot · 05-06-2011, 08:01 PM

Not really. You pick up a glass of water and drink some. you know if it is cold or hot. I tell you the water is cold and you believe me w/o verifying it for yourself you are relying on received information instead of perceived information.

The point I am making has to do with a passive attitude about news and other info instead of an active attitude. Even if it is just applying some critical thinking to received info, it seems like a much better approach to take, tasting before you swallow, as it were.

DanaC · 05-06-2011, 09:12 PM

Nothing in jill's posts suggests she was approsching the news reports uncritically

Pico and ME · 05-06-2011, 09:16 PM

And WTF anyway, this forum is called politics. Where do we get our info in order to discuss it? From the media. Flint was just being a dick.

05-06-2011, 06:31 PM	#181
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	I haven’t said anything (not one single thing!) about how someone interprets a news story, or their knowledge thereof. Double-check if you like. The manipulation I have been referring to is the fact that this story was on the news to begin with. That has, in fact, been stated in every sentence of every post that I have made. You can choose to remain purposefully obtuse, if you like. Again, people are free to make their own decisions. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio** Last edited by Flint; 05-06-2011 at 06:42 PM.

05-06-2011, 06:42 PM	#183
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Glad you're sticking with me Flint. Because only now do I understand (my third understanding) of your point. You're point is "... (something/someone/all of us.... um??) is being manipulated by the existence of a story in the media. You've been much, much clearer in the past. The fucking math question was clearer than this. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

05-06-2011, 06:46 PM	#184
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	So should we all say how clever you are because you've said what we all knew in the first place anyway Flint? We've had massive discussions on this board about the news is reported differently depending on the sources' political affiliations. My question to you is this. Why would you choose this particular thread to get in an extra couple of digs at Jill when there are a hundred other threads and posters to which you could have posted the same thing? Clearly jill expressed why she was upset with the content of the article. I personally give her enough credit to realize that it may not have been reported and then she may never have known. I suspect that it's going to be all over the news now anyway though, so really, what's your point Flint? __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

05-06-2011, 06:52 PM	#186
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	lol...sorry. No can do. Again, I know what your point was, but I'd still like to know why you decided to have a go at Jill with it when there were others who were less upset about a previous confrontation who you could have bothered with it. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

05-06-2011, 06:54 PM	#187
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	I read a post and replied to it. That is all. I don't know who or what you're talking about in regards to a "previous confrontation" and I truly, deeply, do not care. On principle. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

05-06-2011, 06:55 PM	#188
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Well I guess we should expect to see the same post quite a few more times then? __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

05-06-2011, 06:58 PM	#189
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Don't bother yourself with having expectations of me. I don't, of you. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

05-06-2011, 06:58 PM	#190
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Awesome! __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

05-06-2011, 07:15 PM	#191
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	Received information as opposed to personal discovery. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

05-06-2011, 07:36 PM	#192
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	All information has to be received/acquired one way or another. It's how that information is disseminated that leads to personal discovery. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

05-06-2011, 08:01 PM	#193
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	Not really. You pick up a glass of water and drink some. you know if it is cold or hot. I tell you the water is cold and you believe me w/o verifying it for yourself you are relying on received information instead of perceived information. The point I am making has to do with a passive attitude about news and other info instead of an active attitude. Even if it is just applying some critical thinking to received info, it seems like a much better approach to take, tasting before you swallow, as it were. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

05-06-2011, 09:16 PM	#195
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	And WTF anyway, this forum is called politics. Where do we get our info in order to discuss it? From the media. Flint was just being a dick.

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