Interesting graphs and charts department - Page 127

xoxoxoBruce · 01-24-2019, 02:09 PM

The reason for UT's concern.

Flint · 01-24-2019, 06:09 PM

I've always encouraged everyone to ignore news articles about Trump's approval rating. Instead, consult a reliable polling aggregate like 538, and observe that no matter what happens, it always averages out to a straight line over any reasonable length of time (that is to say-- you either love him or you hate him).

I still believe this, but I was curious about whether enough time has passed since the government shutdown for the polling averages to catch up, and show what people think (in the short term) in regards to Trump "owning" the shutdown.

What I see here is an extended, starkly directional line, like rarely has happened (not since right after he was elected, and then, arguably, in December 2017). Does it mean anything? Who knows? Here's the visual:

*and over the entire tenure, yes it's still just a straight line

xoxoxoBruce · 01-25-2019, 12:38 AM

This shows the percentage of population which is religious from you bet your bippy Utah, to the deeply heathen northwest.

glatt · 01-25-2019, 05:10 PM

Yesterday's electricity supply in California by type over the course of the day. See that big green bump during the middle of the day? That's solar. It only woks when the sun shines. The rest of the time, they have to bring the natural gas plants on line and import electricity from neighboring states. Nuclear output doesn't fluctuate at all.

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Glinda · 01-28-2019, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

This shows the percentage of population which is religious from you bet your bippy Utah, to the deeply heathen northwest.

OALC I'm surrounded.

Flint · 01-28-2019, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

I've always encouraged everyone to ignore news articles about Trump's approval rating. Instead, consult a reliable polling aggregate like 538, and observe that no matter what happens, it always averages out to a straight line over any reasonable length of time (that is to say-- you either love him or you hate him).

I still believe this, but I was curious about whether enough time has passed since the government shutdown for the polling averages to catch up, and show what people think (in the short term) in regards to Trump "owning" the shutdown.

What I see here is an extended, starkly directional line, like rarely has happened (not since right after he was elected, and then, arguably, in December 2017). Does it mean anything? Who knows? Here's the visual:

*and over the entire tenure, yes it's still just a straight line

Any change since the shutdown ended on Friday? Too soon for the polls to reflect this, but no break in the trend. Trump was riding a smooth straight line since May 2018, then the shutdown began and the effect was immediate-- rocketing him to within 1.5 points of the worst he's ever done (August and December of 2017).

Flint · 03-11-2019, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

I've always encouraged everyone to ignore news articles about Trump's approval rating. Instead, consult a reliable polling aggregate like 538, and observe that no matter what happens, it always averages out to a straight line over any reasonable length of time (that is to say-- you either love him or you hate him).

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but I was curious about whether enough time has passed since the government shutdown for the polling averages to catch up, and show what people think (in the short term) in regards to Trump "owning" the shutdown.
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Originally Posted by Flint

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Any change since the shutdown ended on Friday?
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Checked https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...roval-ratings/ today, Trump's approval rating bumped back up after the shutdown scandal, to--you guessed it--almost exactly where it was a year ago. Literally nothing that happens can affect his approval over time--it's a pure, perfect split of made-up minds.

Clodfobble · 01-25-2019, 08:14 AM

Water sure is fine here in "Austin Lake"...

Griff · 01-25-2019, 10:23 AM

Ha!

BigV · 01-25-2019, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Water sure is fine here in "Austin Lake"...

Ramen sister!

xoxoxoBruce · 01-26-2019, 12:23 AM

You're telling me that CA solar is putting out 2200 megawatts when the sun don't shine... at night... when it's dark?

Oh I get it, duh. Not solar, renewables.

Undertoad · 01-25-2019, 06:59 PM

That is a great resource, I wish we had one for every location.

Change the date to various August days to see usage in peak summer... but in any case, batteries and grid storage and smart charging would smooth that out nicely!

glatt · 01-26-2019, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

That is a great resource, I wish we had one for every location.

I have been playing with this a little bit. Just realized there is an app for that, and through the app, you can get alerts when certain conditions of your choosing arise.

Not sure how to set the alerts. Can an individual purchase electricity from a specific producer in another state? This map shows the price ftim different producers in real time as they fluctuate through the day.

glatt · 01-26-2019, 07:57 AM

xoxoxoBruce · 01-26-2019, 12:07 PM

See, this is what happens when the government sticks their nose into private enterprise. What? Cheaper more reliable power, that's what.

01-24-2019, 02:09 PM	#1
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	The reason for UT's concern. Attached Images __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-24-2019, 06:09 PM	#2
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	I've always encouraged everyone to ignore news articles about Trump's approval rating. Instead, consult a reliable polling aggregate like 538, and observe that no matter what happens, it always averages out to a straight line over any reasonable length of time (that is to say-- you either love him or you hate him). I still believe this, but I was curious about whether enough time has passed since the government shutdown for the polling averages to catch up, and show what people think (in the short term) in regards to Trump "owning" the shutdown. What I see here is an extended, starkly directional line, like rarely has happened (not since right after he was elected, and then, arguably, in December 2017). Does it mean anything? Who knows? Here's the visual: and over the entire tenure, yes it's still just a straight line Attached Images __________________ *************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio** Last edited by Flint; 01-24-2019 at 06:14 PM.

01-25-2019, 12:38 AM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	This shows the percentage of population which is religious from you bet your bippy Utah, to the deeply heathen northwest. Attached Images __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-25-2019, 05:10 PM	#4
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Yesterday's electricity supply in California by type over the course of the day. See that big green bump during the middle of the day? That's solar. It only woks when the sun shines. The rest of the time, they have to bring the natural gas plants on line and import electricity from neighboring states. Nuclear output doesn't fluctuate at all. Source

01-25-2019, 08:14 AM	#8
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Water sure is fine here in "Austin Lake"... __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

01-25-2019, 10:23 AM	#9
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01-26-2019, 12:23 AM	#11
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	You're telling me that CA solar is putting out 2200 megawatts when the sun don't shine... at night... when it's dark? Oh I get it, duh. Not solar, renewables. Attached Images __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-25-2019, 06:59 PM	#12
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	That is a great resource, I wish we had one for every location. Change the date to various August days to see usage in peak summer... but in any case, batteries and grid storage and smart charging would smooth that out nicely!

01-26-2019, 07:57 AM	#14
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717

01-26-2019, 12:07 PM	#15
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	See, this is what happens when the government sticks their nose into private enterprise. What? Cheaper more reliable power, that's what. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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