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Lovely. Draft, anybody? You send your kid first! No, you! No, YOU!
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Also, that as far as terror and insurgency go, the French ended up giving up in Algeria and that violence in Northern Ireland has been ongoing for 80 years. In most cases, occupation caused more violence instead of helping to quell it.
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C'mon Rich, how does the "french giving up", mean anything, anywhere.
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An inverse example. Once Zionist extremists came to power - called for and even got the assasination of Peres - terminated the Oslo Accords - then Sharon got what he wanted - Intafada II - plenty of violence. The purpose of war is to return to diplomacy. When diplomacy does not work, then war is not just possible - but essential. Exactly why we teach Americans 'lessons of history' so that American leaders can not lie and so that diplomacy gets the respect it deserves. Whooops. Maybe others besides Urbane Guerilla did not first read the Pentagon Papers. A wonderful example of how diplomacy works was the Balkans. Containment. Negotiation. Selective use of force. Economic pressure. The problem in Serbia literally negotiated himself out of a job - without any invasion of Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia, etc. Holbrook literally talked Milosevik into surrender. It's all about identifying and then negotiating a problem out of existence. Violence - ie terrorism - only when leaders fail to perform their job. Nations with great leaders don't need 20 years of violence and warfare to fix problems. And once the locals (Eurpoeans) could not do that job in the Balkans, only then did the Americans enter resulting in far less loss of life. How many people had to die uselessly in Northern Ireland before the powers that be decided to stop following violent men and instead address the problem. Last edited by tw; 04-17-2006 at 10:27 PM. |
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tw...
Political leaning isn't simple left/right. It's a circle. And you are so far left that you are coming around on the right. Yes, the Bush administration is grossly inept. Yes, they broke the law and are getting away with it. Yes, the war is going to hell. But anyone who can arrive at that conclusion by themselves doesn't wanna hear you rant on about it for 13 pages, and anyone who can't isn't going to be persuaded by you saying 'mental midget', 'deja vue (sic)', and 'rush limbaugh' a hundred times. Give it a rest already, man. |
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I don't agree with you or anything, but man! 15 posts in and you already have a total understanding of he who is tw. Sharp, dude.
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I have to say that I find tw's tenacity on this subject rather amazing, myself. I think we can safely say that tw is not overly fond of W.
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I meant the assiniation of Rabin - not Perez who then became Prime Minister after Rabin was assinated as called for by Israeli extremists. |
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60 Minutes interviews a retired CIA officer who provided the White House with its intelligence.
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A top CIA officer is speaking publicly about the obvious - how incompetently the White House handled intelligence. Just knowing that they did so is not sufficient. Informed Americans need these testimonies. George Jr insisted intelligence agencies got it all wrong - an outright lie - blame others. What does an MBA then do? Create more layers of bureaucracy. George Jr's solution to stifling Federal Investigations that could have uncovered 11 Sept was Fatherland Security - more bureaucracy. To promote his myths that intelligence was flawed, he created a Director of National Intelligence - as if the CIA did not do that job. The New York Times of 19 April 2006 demonstrates what that bureaucracy has done: Quote:
Meanwhile other problems are being created by these bureacracy layers - a problem that would not exist under the previous and less bureaucratic system: Quote:
These reports are about a White House that distorts intelligence for political agenda, then blames others, and then builds bureaucratic structures. As if bureaucracy will solve a competence problem; a president who lies for a political agenda. There was no intelligence failure. That intelligence failure is a mental midget who would even out a CIA agent to maintain his myths. Last edited by tw; 04-23-2006 at 08:04 PM. |
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Punctuation is as in the original. If you cannot punctuate a simple question, tw, you cannot remotely hope for respect. You (you idiot), refuse to earn any, so perhaps if you want public attention, you might try removing your trousers, seating yourself, deeply, atop a splintery fence post, and rotating at better than 128 rpm for over an hour. Getting your freak on would be more constructive than the wrongheaded logorrhea you indulge in here. Good thing you make communism look stupid, though.
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...For every liberal wacko, there's a conservative nutjob.
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He's talking trash about people who aren't present. Not that I ain't doing the same...
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