Have we become used to or immune to mass shootings?

[Happy Monkey]

If you're not willing to ignore all other issues in favor of it, you're not as rabid.

[sexobon]

Seems that there could be equal; but, opposite rabidities on one issue independent of other issues and regardless of whether or not other issues exist.

YMMV.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by sexobon

Seems that there could be equal; but, opposite rabidities on one issue independent of other issues and regardless of whether or not other issues exist.

Seeing as there is no numeric scale that scientifically measures how much you care about an issue, "willing to ignore all other issues in favor of it" is, in my view, the maximum amount you can care.

[Undertoad]

If gun control people were as rabid as the NRA, quite a few gun control laws would be passed easily.

they may have to be more rabid, on account of that thing in the founding document of the government - remember

~ but with this shitty rabid mob versus rabid mob tribalist approach I'm sure the fucking Constitution will soon be on the outs anyway. ~

[Happy Monkey]

No, I said gun control. Not banning all guns. There's no right enumerated in the Constitution that has no regulation. Nor should there be.

[Undertoad]

i'm sorry but the bit in the founding document says "shall not be infringed" not "shall not be removed entirely"

infringed: act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on

[Flint]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

bit in the founding document says "shall not be infringed" not "shall not be removed entirely"

:::long, exhausted sigh:::
and what is it that shall not be infringed upon?
the right to..
to..

what was it..?

a well R E G U L A T E D militia ??

was that it?

different meaning of regulated, perhaps, mr. constitutions professor?

[Undertoad]

Originally Posted by Flint

different meaning of regulated, perhaps, mr. constitutions professor?

Yes, the 1791 definition

http://www.constitution.org/cons/wellregu.htm

[Flint]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Yes, the 1791 definition

http://www.constitution.org/cons/wellregu.htm

I'm curious about this source, but their 'About' link is a 404 Error

The Meaning of "well regulated militia" section of the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution article in Wikipedia actually does contain some excerpts of Supreme Court deliberation on the matter.



But I'm sure the Oxford English Dictionary is a better source of legal wisdom.

[Undertoad]

[quote=Flint;1007565]I'm curious about this source, but their 'About' link is a 404 Error

works for me http://www.constitution.org/about.htm

It was just the first link I noticed that explained the 1791 definition.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

i'm sorry but the bit in the founding document says "shall not be infringed" not "shall not be removed entirely"

infringed: act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on

It also says that Congress "shall make no law" restricting the "free exercise" of religion, but that doesn't mean you can go Old Testament on somebody.

[sexobon]

Donations by individuals to the NRA are at a 15 year high.

Thank you rabid gun control advocates. First you got The Donald elected President and now you're making the NRA more powerful than ever.

Carry on carrying on.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by sexobon

Donations by individuals to the NRA are at a 15 year high.

I thought you were trying to support Bruce's point... Yeah, I don't dispute that the NRA has a lot of rabid followers.

[sexobon]

Anti's undermining their own causes with their furious stage methodologies that get Trump elected and the NRA empowered meet my conception of rabid.

[Happy Monkey]

Weird argument. The NRA getting more rabid is proof that both sides are equally rabid.