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Old 02-06-2009, 07:27 PM   #166
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Yea, well you could support ways to get us off the oil and gas teet of other countries or you could look in our own back yard to find a way to say "screw you" to those countries that depend on our dependence.
So we should mine and drill near our public lands and parks? yea, cause what I really want to see when I go to the Grand Canyon is fucking oil wells. Don't be such a tool Merc.
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Old 02-06-2009, 08:55 PM   #167
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So we should mine and drill near our public lands and parks? yea, cause what I really want to see when I go to the Grand Canyon is fucking oil wells. Don't be such a tool Merc.
It is not about being a tool, it is about energy independence from other countries.
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Old 02-06-2009, 09:32 PM   #168
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It is not about being a tool, it is about energy independence from other countries.

Blarg. Drill & cap. Keep buying their shit. When they run out, uncap the wells, use the oil, and watch the Saudis try to eat sand.

If they're dumb enough to trade oil for fiat currency, screw 'em.
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Old 02-07-2009, 10:51 PM   #169
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It is not about being a tool, it is about energy independence from other countries.
Then we should be developing alternatives, not doing the same old, same old. Besides ruining some of our most pristine/protected lands (that are for everyone to enjoy btw), it literally takes YEARS to open new drill sites/wells. We wouldn't be seeing any of that oil anytime soon.

If we simply must continue to use a combustion engine (which I would much rather go to electric cars, or cars run on compressed air), we should develop biofuel made from algae. We could develop it a LOT faster, it doesn't require a whole lot of space to do it, it could provide virtually all of our energy needs, and all kinds of different fuels can be made from it. It's clean. Producing it doesn't create all the pollution that comes from drilling. etc. etc. etc.
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Old 02-08-2009, 06:37 AM   #170
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Then we should be developing alternatives, not doing the same old, same old. Besides ruining some of our most pristine/protected lands (that are for everyone to enjoy btw), it literally takes YEARS to open new drill sites/wells. We wouldn't be seeing any of that oil anytime soon.

If we simply must continue to use a combustion engine (which I would much rather go to electric cars, or cars run on compressed air), we should develop biofuel made from algae. We could develop it a LOT faster, it doesn't require a whole lot of space to do it, it could provide virtually all of our energy needs, and all kinds of different fuels can be made from it. It's clean. Producing it doesn't create all the pollution that comes from drilling. etc. etc. etc.
We have no choice but to do both. This country will still take 25 - 50 years to get off the use of fosil fuels, even it wanted to make a concerted effort to do so.
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Old 02-08-2009, 01:26 PM   #171
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We have no choice but to do both. This country will still take 25 - 50 years to get off the use of fosil fuels, even it wanted to make a concerted effort to do so.
Better start now.
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Old 02-08-2009, 04:34 PM   #172
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Better start now.
Never said we shouldn't. But we shouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water either.
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Old 02-08-2009, 05:09 PM   #173
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Never said we shouldn't. But we shouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water either.
I hate babies.
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Old 02-08-2009, 05:10 PM   #174
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They actually taste good with some Glory Zesty Flavored Hot Sauce.
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Old 02-08-2009, 05:19 PM   #175
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They actually taste good with some Glory Zesty Flavored Hot Sauce.

Gives me reflux.
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Old 02-08-2009, 06:09 PM   #176
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Gives me reflux.
Take an H2 blocker like Prilosec, works wonders. Helps get the boney parts down.
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Old 02-08-2009, 08:54 PM   #177
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We have no choice but to do both. This country will still take 25 - 50 years to get off the use of fosil fuels, even it wanted to make a concerted effort to do so.
I don't buy it. If we really wanted to do it, we could accomplish it in a relatively short period of time. We just have to decide to really get behind it, and DO it.
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Old 02-08-2009, 10:41 PM   #178
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Yeah, you people driving those 200,000,000 cars... turn 'em in to the government on Thursday.
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:10 AM   #179
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The vast majority of cars on the road will be "turned in" much sooner than 25-50 years, without any government intervention.
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:46 AM   #180
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