New study/experiment. Uber conservatives now get a diagnosis?

Yup. I've said as much in many ways.
Money makes money for others. Without the rich there would be no middle class, min. wage or charity.

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

You really get all hot and bothered when someone suggests you give something, don't you.

You're kidding yourself if you think Christianity is consistent with capitalism.

Not hot and bothered in the slightest. I definitely do not fall into your category of "CEO" wealthy (since that seems to be your other synonym for "enough,") so you haven't actually suggested that I give anything to begin with. I give what I can to several different charities, just like you do. The difference between us is that I don't look at anyone else and try to determine if they've given enough or not.

And frankly, you've shown yourself to be quite ignorant of Christianity in the past, so I think I'll stick with my own interpretations of how it fits in with capitalism.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

...
And frankly, you've shown yourself to be quite ignorant of Christianity ...

How so?

[Clodfobble]

Well, most recently, in the discussion about tithing and the economics of individual churches.


Additionally, a quick archive search of your posts including the word "Christian" will show you that almost every single post that isn't a denigrating joke (and don't think I'm complaining about the jokes, they're often funny) is bitching about how other people aren't behaving in a Christian manner. You do a lot of that, which is ironic.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

... And frankly, you've shown yourself to be quite ignorant of Christianity ...

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Well, most recently, in the discussion about tithing and the economics of individual churches.


Additionally, a quick archive search of your posts including the word "Christian" will show you that almost every single post that isn't a denigrating joke (and don't think I'm complaining about the jokes, they're often funny) is bitching about how other people aren't behaving in a Christian manner. You do a lot of that, which is ironic.

None of that illustrates an ignorance of Christianity, which is what you've said. I wouldn't be able denigrate, joke, or criticize, if I weren't knowledgeable about Christianity, would I?

BTW, my experience with church "collections" is absolute truth. Are you insinuating that I'm llying?

[lumberjim]

might i suggest calling him a communist sperm burper?

[Undertoad]

Right -- the owner could raise the price of a can of peas to $5

What happens if he does that?

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Right -- the owner could raise the price of a can of peas to $5

What happens if he does that?

That's what happens now - you get inflation. I'm talking about a whole new way of behaving. One where greed and selfishness take a back seat to what best for the whole - economy, nation, world, species - whatever. I'm not saying that that the owner has to give up all his income, he just needs to accept somewhat less, so that others can have somewhat more. You may say that it'll never happen, that people are naturally self-interested, and won't give up any of their loot (Clod and Lookout are fighting pretty hard). Maybe I'm naive, but I see this as a win/win solution to the problem of the shrinking middle class, the welfare system, and the high taxes resulting from the welfare system. "The owner" can continue with the status quo, and continue the system of "government extortion", and the bitching that goes with it, or he can embrace an entirely new mindset, where his voluntary actions change the system.

Annecdote: My father-in-law owned a plumbing business. He compensted his employees at a higher level than he needed to. He took care of hs guys. He could have paid them as little as he could, and replace them when they got fed up and left. He could have closed up shop, if a union was voted in, and opened up down the street under a different name, without the union. He could have allowed a union to come in, and charged his customers more. But he chose to put less in his pocket.

[skysidhe]

This is like splitting atoms huh?


*thinking and wondering if I should add the dunce emoticon so people know I am joking*
* or it could be to let them know I am too duncy to get it*

[Undertoad]

I guess your A's were in macroeconomics. We're talking micro, here. Let's reduce it down to just you. If you are shopping for groceries, and you want peas, and you see a can of peas for $5, do you buy it?

[skysidhe]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

I guess your A's were in macroeconomics. We're talking micro, here. Let's reduce it down to just you. If you are shopping for groceries, and you want peas, and you see a can of peas for $5, do you buy it?

I know it's not my question but I don't believe buying expensive peas causes inflation because there is someone selling peas for less. If I buy the cheaper peas this might make the other seller reduce prices to be able to compete.

The whole premise behind supply and demand.

Does buying an expensive product set an inflation rate? I don't think so.

However.
I noticed that sugar took a price hike. I assumed it was the cost of fuel to ship it inland. I think the same supply and demand rule applys making the people producing a product look for ways to pass savings onto the consumer.



sorry if I interupted

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

I guess your A's were in macroeconomics. We're talking micro, here. Let's reduce it down to just you. If you are shopping for groceries, and you want peas, and you see a can of peas for $5, do you buy it?

No.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Right -- the owner could raise the price of a can of peas to $5

What happens if he does that?

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

No.

But my point is that the owner doesn't have to raise the price - he can accept less in his own pocket.

[lookout123]

All of which means one thing: I won.

If your definition of winning is to avoid any real substantive discussion until others give up and walk away... yep, you win.

[DanaC]

Let's reduce it down to just you. If you are shopping for groceries, and you want peas, and you see a can of peas for $5, do you buy it?

.......maybe if they were really, really, nice peas?