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I don't think there is ever a 'good' time to institute change. Either there's a recession....or you're in 'recovery'...or the economy is strong and you wuoldn't want anything to upset that...There is always an argument to wait.
There are far too many people struggling with medical bills, or inadequate/no insurance. There are far too many people unable to get insurance because of existing medical conditions. It needs a solution. Though a recession may not be the best time to institute change, it's also the time it's likely to be most needed, as that's when people are losing jobs and employer based insurance. It's during a recession that the gaps show most keenly in people's lives.
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That's how car insurance works.
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If there were a way to set up private health insurance in such a way that the profit motive incentivized low premiums and paying claims, maybe that could work. Unfortunately, it's the other way round. Is there even a theoretical way for health insurance companies to be run at a profit without incentivizing the denial of claims? All I can think of are from the other direction, placing more restrictions on the various reasons insurance companies give for denials, such as "preexisting conditions" or "experimental". But as long as the incentive is still for denial, they'd just make up new classifications.
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But providing insurance for all removes the incentive, the reward, for being rich.
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There is always a good time to make a positive change. This change doesn't appear initially to be one though. It appears that we are going to get saddled with increasing costs and taxes, not decreasing. Yes,we will cover more people, but the rush to get another major plan done is disconcerting. This is huge and for the administration to come out and put a deadline on when this "has to be done" is foolish to me. If you think it should be done right then that should be the goal, not just getting something done by a certain date for what appears to be political reasons.
Thats BS. Also, there are some very basic issues not being addressed - just off the cuff - Will medicare and/or medicaid be replaced, eliminated or modified? Exactly how are we increasing the # of insured while decreasing costs SPECIFICALLY. How are we going to provide services without rationing increase demand by as much as 25% while not increasing the supply of providers. HM - With car insurance, which the Gov't DOES NOT PROVIDE, we are each assessed on our own risks/history. There are plenty of those who still drive without. "If I am not paying for it what is the incentive for me to change my unhealthy behaviors?" If I am obese, diabetic or have clogged arteries because of my diet - Who is being penalized with the increased cost for my health care costs? Not me if I'm not paying for it.
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The Republicans can't do health care reform, like Clinton can't do welfare reform.
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no, do it right or don't do it at all. The last time we rushed to get something done ...well we are still finding BILLIONS in waste from that one.
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That's your opinion, and that's fine. But you are choosing to have illegal immigrants use the ER when they get a sore throat and we all foot the bill for that in increased medical costs. Why would you choose that?
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The less of them draining our system and denying our citizens of care , the better. Perhaps we'd have a few more employed citizens too. Just a thought.
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Medicare prescription drug plan notwithstanding, I guess.
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This is an interesting exchange with Kathleen Sebelius...
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... hypothetically speaking of course.
And I am asking for opinions here because many times we all look at things from different viewpoints and come up with interesting ideas. I am also asking the Gov't and have written my "representatives" already. I am still waiting for a reply.
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