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From the BBC of 10 Mar 2006:
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When did god so hate you and me to give us George Jr? What is wrong with this logic? Well, it assumes god exists. Only satan would give us George Jr - the worst president since ... well Nixon was only a crook. Quote:
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As long time Cellar Dwellers read here, Brent Scowcroft, adviser to and close friend of George Sr, worried long about a potential for Civil War in Iraq. Most back then who read that here probably totally discounted it. Scowcroft was also one of the few among Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfovitz (they initially opposed the rescue) who correctly identified the invasion of Kuwait as a smoking gun. Scowcroft was noted by this author because he tends to see reality. Most readers probably discounted his warnings.
George Jr insists we were winning some fictitious war on terror. Now even George Jr's Sec of Defense is answering what we will do if and when an impending Civil War breaks out. Another in a long list of citations of facts and reality, ABC News of 10 Mar 2006: Quote:
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Someone please show us sanity in any of this. Oh.. This was god's chosen government. And nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition - except this author how many years ago? Yes I am pissed at how our leaders and so many citizens have so much contempt for America and her principles. Clearly we are not torturing people. That would not be Christian .... extremist. Quote:
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IOW -- and so many words! -- dear old tw doesn't want us to do anything ever that might win us the war. What a pusbrain.
Communism: the chronic infection. Red is the color of inflammation, and as a communist, tw is carefully anti-American. Note too his erratic grammar in a foreign phrase -- something he almost never gets right.
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From CBS News of 29 Mar 2006:
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Damn Commie! How dare you cite the US Constitution when "libertarians" like UG want the government to take ever more control out of the hands of the US people, and allow our highest elected officials to engage in war profiteering by lining their pockets with ill-gotten Halliburten profits?
Jeez, only a fellow traveler would have us beleive that someone should rein in the power grabbing schemes of the current executive branch of our government! PS I am in a very bad mood today, and if UG makes just one more of his hysterical war mongering posts or accusations, he's toast, courtesy of yours truely. |
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George Jr in 2003:
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Anyone else and these above statements would be foolish. Not with George. He gets the respect he deserves. Last edited by tw; 04-08-2006 at 12:19 AM. |
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Mari, you're looking rather red. Is that a fever or do I note THE CHRONIC SCOURGE OF COMMUNISM AND CAREFULLY ANTI-AMERICAN SYMPTOMS OF THAT AFFLICTION?
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Nah, it just bird flu.
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Bird flu is a communist plot or something.
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Straw and Rice (foreign ministers for UK and US) snuck into Iraq to tell Iraqi leaders that a government will stop terrorism. Right. And the elections in S Vietnam were going to stop Victor Charlie. Ironic that American leadership - totally devoid of what was happening in country (ie Vietnam) - again completely have no grasp of how bad Iraq is becoming.
Last year, some in The Cellar tried to claim Iraqi violence was exaggerated. They claimed all that reconstruction and other good works was being ignored. Well, most all projects are halted or sabotagued. BBC quote so many Iraqi this week who routinely claimed American soldiers were a greatest threat. Americans routinely fire at anyone who gets too close. Clearly Iraq is getting better. Iraq is now a net importer of oil. Somehow these and a long list of other facts get ignored in a Washington 'denial' mindset that some have even parroted here. Well another American decrees how Iraq will get better. From the NY Times of 7 April 2006: Quote:
Good Morning, Iraq. Mission Accomplished. Now all they need do is form a government. That will stop the violence. That will restore electricity (to levels that Saddam had no trouble providing). Clearly things are getting better. All they need is Americans to order the Parliament to meet again. That will solve everything according to Condi Rice and Jack Straw. Clearly only Washington knows what is best for Iraq. |
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George Jr's intentions to invade Iran have been subverted first by insurgents (which he lies about when he calls them Al Qaeda), and now by militias that are killing more than insurgents. As killing in Iraq increase (from levels never seen during Saddam's reign), a use of conventional forces against Iran is not viable. No problem. Since George Jr sees the world chock full of enemies everywhere, then unilateral use of nuclear weapons is completely justified. Remember, when you remained silent as the US "Pearl Harbored" Iraq, well, you only enpowered Satanic forces. From CBS News of 9 Apr 2006:
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Those who have been Cellar dwellers forever know that I have never been anywhere near so critical of any other politician. I have never seen so much of what others call 'evil' as exists with the current president. No one has ever observed me to be anywhere so critical of any other politician. He does nothing as people die due to an Indian Ocean tsunami, destroys the Oslo Accords, undermines or destroys international world treaties (anti-missile treaty, weapons in space treaty, nuclear non-proliferation treaty, nuclear test ban treaty), sits reading a children's book and does nothing when told "America is under attack" (and does nothing all day but hide), lies about Saddam's WMDs, outs a CIA agent to take revenge on those who would tell the truth, endorse religious extremists who would even lie in Federal Court to promote their religion on good people in Dover PA, wiretaps while saying all but "fuck you" to the courts, advocated torture and lies about it, rendition (kidnapping innocent people in foreign nations), completely destroys a negotiated settlement to bring N Korea back into the world (to justify war), spends money like only a corrupt politician would to mortgage America's future (no one else has even done this worse), lies about levees in New Orleans as Brownie all but begs on his knees for assistance (and then goes to CA for a campaign fund raiser) (keep the USS Bataan at sea while people are dying in New Orleans), destroys American science where ever he can (from satellites to even software research - yes government research on software has been cut by more than 50%), lies about the rebuilding of Iraq and Afghanistan (so that only the most naive among us could believe him), creates so much mistrust that even Canadians will need passports - clearly Canadians are more enemies of America, lies about global warming, enriches corporations that contribute money to Republicans (Halliburton, K Street, et all), other corporate welfare ($tens of billions free to airlines, protection of anti-American steel manufacturers, subverts SEC investigations of numerous companies such as Enron, AIG, Waste Management, those who intentionally created a CA energy crisis) until state Attorneys General threaten to prosecute to publically humiliate George Jr, accepting a $450,000 campaign contribution to keep a defective nuclear reactor on-line (with a potential Three Mile Island problem and a hole in its containment dome) in Toledo, promoting excessive energy consumption as a solution to stifled innovation (what happened to that $100million given to GM 12 years ago to build a hybrid?), global warming, executive incomes increase between tens and hundreds time more than all others (a precursor to a Great Depression), encourage Arab Israeli violence by even letting Israel use American weapons on Palestinians, impose right wing religious beliefs (including "intelligent design") on all others (to promote religious wars), protect that 40% additional profit for drugs at the expense of American consumers by even subverting the real costs of that government welfare program (it will cost about about $1 trillion), massive increases in government bureaucracy such as Fatherland Security, raiding the trust funds such as Highway and Social Security without leaving an IOW - then lying about why those trust funds must be reformed, lying to people in NYC about a major environment health threat, arsenic in drinking water is acceptable, making it dangerous for Americans to travel in a world that once was more than 70% friendly to America, and even bragging about how he made his first $600,000 (by doing nothing productive as only MBAs do). And this is only an abridged list. Americans will be dying for no purpose in Iraq and Afghanistan long after George Jr leaves office - because George Jr did not do his job - did not even read the PDB that warned of 11 September. Even George Jr calls this "Mission Accomplished" So yes, a nuclear attack on a sovereign nation by this president is quite acceptable. He and other schizophrenic types see enemies every where - where once we could find friends. He will do this because so many even in the Cellar remain silent as they did when George Jr lied about Saddam's WMDs AND where George Jr all but blamed Saddam for the WTC. Never forget a paper upon which Project for New American Century was predicated - that the US may even unilaterally attack (Pearl Harbor) India, Russia, or Germany. Clearly a unilateral nuclear attack is trivial by comparison. Same people now justify a unilateral nuclear attack on Iran. Their 'Rush Limbaugh' promoters are already spinning that acceptable - as they did to promote lies about Saddam's WMD and to blame Saddam for 11 September. But this time, we can learn, in advance, Cellar Dwellars who advocate nuclear war. They will remain silent here - which justifies unprovoked nuclear war on Iran - as they did to justify the "Mission Accomplished" war. The US advocates using nuclear weapons. If you remain silent, then you have endorsed it - because the consequences are that severe. So severe that silence is an endorsement of nuclear war. There is no way one can remain silent about a "Pearl Harbor with nuclear weapons" and say they don't approve. Of course George Jr thinks nothing of using nuclear weapons when he even sees a new Hitler in Tehran. This, BTW, is how Hitler took power in Germany. |
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Still finding bodies. From the NY Times of 11 Apr 2006:
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What did George Jr do in his first term when his popularity fell? Issue another Orange Alert. Well that does not work anymore. Better nuke another nation. War always increases the president's popularity ... and stops people from talking about New Orleans. A competent man, having made so many gross mistakes during Katrina, would go out of his way to make sure no more fubars come from New Orleans. FEMA does not have the paper work? One decree from the president would solve that in 30 seconds. They are still looking for bodies that even remain where they died - 8 months ago. Only an incompetent (religiously selected politician) leader would let this continue – dead bodies unrecovered for eight plus months because of paper work. And again 85% of all problems are directly traceable to top management. They cannot recover bodies for eight months due to paper work? More bull. George Jr's concern ended with a promise to rebuild Trent Lott's ocean front house. No problem. Fix his popularity by nuking Iran. Don't fool yourself for one minute. That is why the administration's number one guy on New Orleans after 'Brownie' was recalled to Washington was ... Karl Rove. It was a popularity problem - recovering bodies still is only secondary. |
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tw, you may have covered this before, but where did you find that often cited 85% figure?
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