PETA Recap/Summary

[kerosene]

That looks a lot like that rabbit I shot a few weeks ago.

[garnet]

Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

Are they wrong or lying? That's the important question.

Are the listed numbers in some way incorrect?

Did they or did they not finance at least two known domestic terrorists?

Were the quotes actually spoken as they were attributed?

Did they actually produce and distribute this comic book to children?


And the first mother-fucker that hands something like that to my child gets to play christmas tree, by the way.

How did I know this was coming...

TS, why are you so threatened by PETA? You get SO angry when anyone brings up PETA, yet at the same time proceed to call them idiots. Why are a bunch of idiots such a threat to you? if you don't like PETA, ignore them. I don't like your heroes at the NRA, but idon't waste my time worrying about them. it's not worth getting so upset about.

And yes, the numbers, quotes and accusations made by the CCF are inaccurate, taken out of context and/or completely fabricated. But if you want to continue to believe them, that's fine, it's your choice. I have been to many anti-fur demonstrations where the brochure you're so upset about was used. They were never, ever handed to children--only people who looked to be at least 20 years old. We're they perhaps given to a 17-year old who looked 20? Perhaps, but I think a 17 year old will be able to get over it--just like you should.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

Are they wrong or lying? That's the important question.
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Did they actually produce and distribute this comic book to children?

Is the comic book wrong or lying? Or is it the presentation and insinuations in the comic book that offend you?

[Troubleshooter]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Is the comic book wrong or lying? Or is it the presentation and insinuations in the comic book that offend you?

The underlying facts of the comic are untrue. Someone else processes everything we see now. And yes I know that there have been legitimate cases of animal cruelty at those facilities.

The comic purports that your mother, think about that, your mother is an evil moster who strips animals of their skin in an orgy of consumerism.

Now, I know for a fact that my mother does not in any way fold, spindle, or mutilate animals for her own ends.

So, yes, and yes.

[wolf]

Of course Garnet doesn't give them much credence, but The Center for Consumer Freedom presented testimony to congress about PETA's (and other organizations') funding ties to ALF and ELF.

[garnet]

You guessed it, Lookout! Nice going!

Originally Posted by wolf

Of course Garnet doesn't give them much credence, but The Center for Consumer Freedom presented testimony to congress about PETA's (and other organizations') funding ties to ALF and ELF.

So what? These guys are lobbyists, and they present a lot of things to Congress. Does the fact that it was presented to Congress make it true?

BTW, PETA just got word that the IRS has completed their 20-month audit of our finances. This audit basically started because of the CCF's politically-motivated claims, which began a couple years ago. The IRS left no stone unturned in a nearly two-year-long investigation, and PETA has just received a "clean bill or health." Our tax-exempt status will remain intact, once again proving that the CCF is lying.

Again, if PETA is a "terrorist" organization, why do we still have our tax-exempt status? Wouldn't the IRS and FBI have figured it out by now?

[lookout123]

teeheehee i knew it! i've got a gift! i'm going to use my skills at seeing the future to help all mankind. for a small fee, of course - i am a capitalist pig, after all.


hi garnet - nice to see you back.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by wolf

Of course Garnet doesn't give them much credence, but The Center for Consumer Freedom presented testimony to congress about PETA's (and other organizations') funding ties to ALF and ELF.

I thought the funding came from Ingrid Newkirk and couldn't be proven to be PETA funds?

[Griff]

Collectively, ALF and ELF have committed more than one thousand criminal acts amounting to more than $110 million in damage from arson, vandalism, and other violent tactics. The FBI has called them "our highest domestic terrorism investigative priority." From Wolfs link.


Looks like we can end the war on terror right now...

[Be Less Bored]

I was especially amused by an episode of "Bullshit" wherein it was revealed the then head of PETA used insulin derived from animal research to stay alive. But naturally it was ok for her because the ever amorphous someone had to fight the fight.

[Undertoad]

there is no rational basis for maintaining a moral distinction between the treatment of humans and other animals

I'm perfectly willing to follow that, when one of my dogs reminds me of it personally.

[Brett's Honey]

Quote:
there is no rational basis for maintaining a moral distinction between the treatment of humans and other animals

UT - Thanks for the best answer that I have ever heard in this argument. I plan on using it.

[lookout123]

the next person to respond will be a no-meat-eating loser. trust me.


but i bet they don't look too dikey.

[footfootfoot]

[lit]The next time my cat barfs on the rug he's going straight to Gloversville.http://www.albany.edu/history/glovers/
peta or not, The Bedwe'er was fleeced out of his woodchuck coat (so to speak) but I can see some warm orange mittens on his horizon.[/lit]

[Trilby]

Hi, Garnet! I hope you're back to stay. I've missed ya!