Perverting science for politics

[Happy Monkey]

Coulter has a point- If we were still in Vietnam, we wouldn't have lost yet.

True, we would still be losing.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Remember the boat people weren't trying to get into Vietnam, but out of it. Communism is insupportable among the people of decency.

And there are no refugees fleeing the United States. About the only U.S.-fleeing individual crank fleeing away that I can even bring to mind was R. Crumb. (He's been voluble about his reasons -- but they're all unimportant. Were they important, he'd have had some company, I suppose.)

[tw]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Remember the boat people weren't trying to get into Vietnam, but out of it. Communism is insupportable among the people of decency.

And those boat people continued coming for 30 years? Yes, according to UG propaganda. No if UG uses a neocon political agenda to rationalize.

Remember some of his earliest posts. UG completely understood why Vietnam occurred and was lost - but did not even know facts from the Pentagon Papers. Maybe Ann Coulter tells him how to think? Goebbels with blond hair. Brown shirts somehow just knew more. 'Big dic' rationalizing is alive and well.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by tw

And those boat people continued coming for 30 years? Yes, according to UG propaganda. No if UG uses a neocon political agenda to rationalize.

There is no prospect of further boat people and refugees now that Vietnam has seen Communism doesn't work.

This emphasis on some 30-year period is opaque -- perhaps tw is trying to win through gibberish.

Won't work, kid. The mad never really get that they are mad. Trouble is, everyone else does.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

There is no prospect of further boat people and refugees now that Vietnam has seen Communism doesn't work.

Yet you ignore the fact that Vietnamese communism was defeated in the marketplace not on the battlefield. This opposition to reality is reflected in your views about defeating radical Islam.

[Ibby]

Plenty of people fled America in the sixties and seventies. Oh wait, they dont count, they were just liberal hippy idiots, right?

[tw]

Originally Posted by Ibram

Plenty of people fled America in the sixties and seventies. Oh wait, they dont count, they were just liberal hippy idiots, right?

People will always fear totalitarianism that UG promotes. No wonder he also loved Nixon as he loves George Jr. Notice how UG fears the Iraq Study Group. Facts and reality. Too much for UG to read. He feels; therefore he knows. It is called decisions based upon a political agenda.

UG said he was reading Thomas P.M. Barnett's Blueprint For Action: A Future Worth Creating in this post on 9 Nov 2006. Why is he so silent? He had to read something more complex than Animal Farm. Barnett also demonstrates why Urbane Guerrilla's politics are a prescription for failure. How UG’s totalitarianism only results in failure. UG does not discuss even that book. Instead he somehow knows.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Idiots, yes; dupes, yes. I disregard them. I think anybody with a brain would.

Now you get to figure out why I'd think they're not to be respected. It's within your powers; I've seen the stuff you're putting on the Philosophy forum and I like it.

[Ibby]

Of course I know why you dont think theyre to be respected; youre a paleolithic, neomccarthyist, pinko-hating nutjob. (and yes, I could go on)

Now you get to figure out why I'd think you're not to be respected.

(hint: it's right there^)

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by Ibram

Of course I know why you dont think theyre to be respected; youre a paleolithic, neomccarthyist, pinko-hating nutjob. (and yes, I could go on)

Now you get to figure out why I'd think you're not to be respected.

(hint: it's right there^)

Sorry, it's because you're under twenty and believe you know it all. Call it an occupational hazard. I'm fifty, and I know patience -- I have a pretty good idea that your opinions will evolve as you become fully adult. The reason, dear fellow, to hate pinkoes is found in the butcher's bill of Communism -- I've said before that the anticommunist is the pro-human, and that is just the most basic reason why.

The rest, and anything you could go on about in this vein, is adjectival froth, and impressive to the high schooler, but that's it. The reason I'm untroubled is I've had more of a life than you. Stay out from under heavy falling objects and you'll get there too.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Screw off, tw. I'm still working on it, as it repays careful study. Screw off twice and thrice, madman. I know from your posts that you are the totalitarianism promoter around here -- one cannot in practice be a Communist and a democrat.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

I'm not ignoring it at all, much as you'd like to believe the contrary. I am very pleased that Communism fell in Vietnam of its own contradictions.

I also recognize the validity of Heinlein's contention that "violence -- naked force -- has settled more issues in history" than any other means. Like it or not. Unfreedom needs to be destroyed, discredited, and defunded, Griff. Seems to me this is a primary mission for the committed libertarian, big L or small. Otherwise the unfree try and kill the free -- which I think we agree is no good.

[axeman84]

is it wrong to pray for bushs' assasination?

[glatt]

That post won't trigger Carnivore.