Guns will protect you from tsunamis. - Page 11

Hippikos · 01-06-2007, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by yesman065

Regarding spelling and grammatical mistakes, I have some type of web spellcheck at home, but not at work, so they do seem to slip through when I'm on there - no biggie. I got your point.

Grammar Nazis live in any forum, you have to live with it like with other vermin.

wolf · 01-06-2007, 12:53 PM

01-06-2007, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Prior to 1776, cannons, privately owned by individuals, not communities or settlements, were rare as hen's teeth. They were too expensive to acquire and shoot (used a lot of powder), for most individuals to afford. Yes, they were legal, everything was legal until technology upped the ante.

As rifles and side arms improved, the people that could afford them, kept pace. It wasn't until weapons were developed for killing buildings and tanks, that private citizens didn't have a legitimate application for, that the government said whoa, Nellie. The people don't need this shit and could do a hell of a lot of bad things, even accidentally, with it. They figured it probably wasn't a good idea for you to be able to run down to the hardware store and pick up a gun that would shoot the door off a bank vault.

I'm hard pressed to come up with an occasion where I'd need anything bigger than a .5 bore. Defend myself from the government's military? When they can drop a nuke on me from half way around the world? No way.

Come to think of it, I wonder how many people with small arsenals like mine, are deluded into thinking that's all that's necessary to keep them safe from the government. That's nonsense, the ONLY thing that will protect us from the government, is an active, vigilant, voting public.
Guns only work against thugs, criminals and bullies, individually or very small groups.

There is no larger bully/thug/criminal group than the US government.

yesman065 · 01-07-2007, 12:21 AM

Maggie - just let it go - it's not worth it.

MaggieL · 01-07-2007, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by yesman065

Maggie - just let it go - it's not worth it.

Well, if you don't write coherently, that's not my fault. Conversely, if your writing reveals more of your thinking than you like, that's on you also.

yesman065 · 01-07-2007, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL

Well, if you don't write coherently, that's not my fault. Conversely, if your writing reveals more of your thinking than you like, that's on you also.

Whatever.

MaggieL · 01-08-2007, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by yesman065

Whatever.

Thank you for clarifying your point. Somehow my viewpoint just wasn't nuanced enough to pick up on the incicive logic of "whatever".

01-07-2007, 12:23 AM

Again, if you don't like guns... don't buy one.

Undertoad · 01-07-2007, 02:56 PM

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Those days are long gone, wounded knee, Ruby ridge, Waco.
If you run afoul of one of their laws, most likely your contact will be with a local police officer. If he leaves with a load of buckshot in his ass, they will come down on you in biblical proportion. You will not win.

It's not necessary to "win" or even to load up. There mere threat of 1 out of 1000 principled bathtub gin owners (or whatever) taking a stand is enough to influence the power.

Nobody "won" at Waco but the rules of engagement are forever changed.

01-07-2007, 05:07 PM

Exactly.
Plus, since then, I promise you those agents will not get that close to a compound again.

Aliantha · 01-07-2007, 09:35 PM

Don't worry Yesman...you're better off not wasting your effort on pointless discussions. You're not the only one she fails to comprehend.

WabUfvot5 · 01-07-2007, 09:51 PM

Wow, it's a good thing nobody ever gets shot over anything petty like grammar or spelling.

yesman065 · 01-07-2007, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jebediah

Wow, it's a good thing nobody ever gets shot over anything petty like grammar or spelling.

Yeah we'd miss out on all tw's posts too, and that would suck! Really, although I disagree with tw most of the time, I find his posts interesting if nothing else.

Oh and thanks Ali. I was beginnig to think it WAS just me.

Urbane Guerrilla · 01-08-2007, 02:24 AM

Well, yesman, I've only been half following your discussion with MaggieL, but the half I saw tells me you need to understand guns and the guns-and-people interface considerably better than you do.

I see that in the fact that you're not pro-gun enough. I can suggest a few written works that would help your understanding a great deal -- as they helped mine. Shall I do a PM?

MaggieL is the opposite of arrogant -- that's more in my line -- so you really couldn't claim to be put off by her manner -- but she does know more about the benevolent effects of privately owned killing tools than you've ever thought of.

yesman065 · 01-08-2007, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Well, yesman, I've only been half following your discussion with MaggieL, but the half I saw tells me you need to understand guns and the guns-and-people interface considerably better than you do.

We all have our own opinions - neither right nor wrong - just different.

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

I see that in the fact that you're not pro-gun enough. I can suggest a few written works that would help your understanding a great deal -- as they helped mine. Shall I do a PM?

no thanks I think I have a good grasp of the situation and simply disagree with her - and you I guess.

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

She does know more about the benevolent effects of privately owned killing tools than you've ever thought of.

Perhaps making more of the benevolent effects of guns and downplaying (or completely ignoring) the negatives leads you too, to this conclusion.
I have said what I believe and after all the banter, shall continue to stand fast in them.

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Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Well, yesman, I've only been half following your discussion with MaggieL, but the half I saw tells me you need to understand guns and the guns-and-people interface considerably better than you do. I see that in the fact that you're not pro-gun enough. I can suggest a few written works that would help your understanding a great deal -- as they helped mine. Shall I do a PM? MaggieL is the opposite of arrogant -- that's more in my line -- so you really couldn't claim to be put off by her manner -- but she does know more about the benevolent effects of privately owned killing tools than you've ever thought of. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course. Last edited by Urbane Guerrilla; 01-08-2007 at 03:40 AM.

01-07-2007, 12:21 AM	#4
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	Maggie - just let it go - it's not worth it.

01-07-2007, 12:23 AM	#8
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Again, if you don't like guns... don't buy one.

01-07-2007, 05:07 PM	#10
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Exactly. Plus, since then, I promise you those agents will not get that close to a compound again.

01-07-2007, 09:51 PM	#12
WabUfvot5 Operations Operative Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 634	Wow, it's a good thing nobody ever gets shot over anything petty like grammar or spelling.

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