Middle East erupts - Page 11

Aliantha · 08-10-2006, 06:05 AM

I think it's fairly safe to say that children who have been born into the sort of horror so many of these children have would unfortunately have had their innocence stolen from them many years before their time. So, I'd say that yeah, they know what they're doing. They've been taught that if you don't get them first, they'll get you soon. If that's hate then that's what they've been taught. I'd hazard a guess and say it's probably more likely a case of self preservation which is innate in most human beings.

Either way it's heart wrenching no matter which way you look at it. Arguing about it on a stupid website doesn't help and it's definitely not going to stop it happening.

The other pictures are just stupid set ups and the parents are simply brainless to think anything like that could be funny. What morons...

xoxoxoBruce · 08-11-2006, 02:26 AM

I think what the children are being taught is fear. The hate that just naturally follows the fear, doesn't have to be taught.

tjauh · 08-11-2006, 06:44 AM

Check this out ...

http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=1...ghlight=beirut

tjauh · 08-11-2006, 06:44 AM

Check this out ...

http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=1...ghlight=beirut

Griff · 08-11-2006, 07:07 AM

Post an opinion tjauh. We all know that most of the picks out of Lebanon are real.

Trilby · 08-11-2006, 06:50 PM

tjauh has an agenda, not an opinion.

JayMcGee · 08-12-2006, 10:38 PM

Indeed.

If it's moving. it's Hezbollah fighters re-deploying..

If it's not moving, it's Hezbollah fighters digging in...

send in the clowns^h^h^h^h^h^h^h bombers

JayMcGee · 08-12-2006, 10:55 PM

and you're comfortable with this?

9th Engineer · 08-12-2006, 11:11 PM

Sure. These people had no problem with Hezbollah killing Israelies, they gave them legitimate status and became complicit in the party's actions. If Hezbollah was ruling the nation under martial law and the Lebanese were protesting the terrorist attacks against Israel, then it would be inappropriate to involve them.

tw · 08-12-2006, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer

Sure. These people had no problem with Hezbollah killing Israelies,

Now learn perspective. Hezbollah and Israel were slapping each others face. It was that normal and that irrelevant. How many times did you learn about Hezbollah kidnapping Israeli soldiers only to have them exchanged for prisoners? 5? I will bet you did not even know this occurred repeatedly without any military action. So why did you not know this? Because killing a few on the other side is routine. Why did you not know this? Why suddenly do you have veins hanging from your teeth with each post? Maybe the local extremists have you all emotional. That would be the accurate answer.

Posted elsewhere were some basic questions that you knew every answer to ... if you had basic knowledge of the region.

Instead you have this 'they want to kill everyone' attitude - which is exactly what Cheney and Limbaugh want you to believe.

The honest interpretation is both Israelis and Hezbollah deserve to suffer deaths because neither is good. And the Lebanese people are 100% victims.

Why did Lebanon break down into civil war last time? Because Israel invaded with no reason - no justification. Why did those we now call Hezbollah welcome Israelis with flowers and rice? And most important, why did you not know this ... but somehow know who is good and who is evil.

We know one fact. Those 90% of Lebanese are 100% victims of Israel. Israel has no problem killing anyone who is not Israeli or Jews. Just ask the crew of the USS Liberty. Oh, that too was an accident? Just ask the people of Lebanon about accidents all the way up to Tripoli. Or maybe you forget this same nation took the world closest ever to nuclear holocaust - even closer than the Cuban Missile crisis? Oh. You don't know that fact either? Do you forget history or do you just automatically know who is good and who is evil?

9th Engineer - you are, I assume 18. Therefore you entire knowledge of the world is only two years. Suddenly you know who is good and who is evil? A convoy of thousands moving north and north of the Latani river is attacked by Israel - because they thought this was Hezbollah weapons moving south. These are repeatedly not accidents.

Undertoad · 08-18-2006, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tw

Why did those we now call Hezbollah welcome Israelis with flowers and rice?

And who did it this time?

Lebanese general arrested after being filmed with IDF soldiers

Quote:

A Lebanese general was ordered arrested Wednesday for appearing in a videotape drinking tea with Israeli soldiers who had occupied his south Lebanon barracks during their incursion of the country.

Brig. Adnan Daoud was summoned and ordered held for questioning, Interior Minister Ahmed Fatfat said in a statement. Daoud is commanding officer of the 1,000-strong joint police-army force that had positions in southern Lebanon and was based in Marjayoun.

Israeli troops seized the barracks there last week and held him and 350 soldiers for a day before allowing them to leave the occupied zone. The Lebanese garrison, which is lightly armed, did not resist the Israeli force which moved in armor into the base.

In the videotape, aired on Israeli television and carried by a Lebanese TV station Wednesday, Daoud was shown having tea with smiling Israeli soldiers and walking with them in the base courtyard.

Saw some of this friendly tea service video. No hatred was visible. I have the same glass mugs that the Lebanese used. I will serve tea to anyone who comes to my house.

zippyt · 08-13-2006, 01:23 AM

As a maint Man said recently
" Fuck-em and feed em fish heads !!!!!
Those stupid bastardes have been killin each other off for centerurys ,
and even if we can take ALL their weapons away from them they will be killing each other off with rocks and sticks !!!!!!!"

xoxoxoBruce · 08-13-2006, 02:13 AM

There's a war going on over there. People die in wars...always.
Remember when the Marines rolled into Iraq....we killed a whole bunch of Marines by mistake....2nd company if I remember correctly.

Occam's Razor.... Never blame an evil plan when plain snafu is likely.

C'mon Zippy, let us know how you feel about Arabs.

zippyt · 08-13-2006, 02:24 AM

Fuck-em !!!!!!!!
" Fuck-em and feed em fish heads !!!!!
Those stupid bastardes have been killin each other off for centerurys ,
and even if we can take ALL their weapons away from them they will be killing each other off with rocks and sticks !!!!!!!"
Same shit different dialect !!!!
It is as STUPID as if the Cathlics and the Babtist were killing each other off over their own spin on religion !!!
There IS a God , weather his ( or Her ) name in Jesus , Allah , Budda , or Oden !!!
They NEED to understand that every body sees things differently , but it it ALL the same when you break it down to the BASICS !!!!!!

tw · 08-13-2006, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zippyt

Fuck-em !!!!!!!!
" Fuck-em and feed em fish heads !!!!!
Those stupid bastardes have been killin each other off for centerurys ,
and even if we can take ALL their weapons away from them they will be killing each other off with rocks and sticks !!!!!!!"
Same shit different dialect !!!!
It is as STUPID as if the Cathlics and the Babtist were killing each other off over their own spin on religion !!!
There IS a God , weather his ( or Her ) name in Jesus , Allah , Budda , or Oden !!!
They NEED to understand that every body sees things differently , but it it ALL the same when you break it down to the BASICS !!!!!!

This attitude has merit. If American and European bombers bombed each side so that Israeli and Arab deaths were equally proportional, then all would sue for peace. In such conflicts, human life has no value. Until the underlying principles are solved (addressed), humans will continue to die uselessly and anyway.

Massive death rates on all sides means centrists - the intelligent people - are driven from the ranks of extremists. Only then can peace happen. It solved the Balkans quickly when suddenly Serbians were dying in numbers equal to or higher than Croatians. It forced centrists to rise up and expell extremists from power. It solved the problem.

There is merit to what zippyt posts. However do we have the balls to attempt it? No. Because there is this other fact - our future relations with all those parties.

08-10-2006, 06:05 AM	#1
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I think it's fairly safe to say that children who have been born into the sort of horror so many of these children have would unfortunately have had their innocence stolen from them many years before their time. So, I'd say that yeah, they know what they're doing. They've been taught that if you don't get them first, they'll get you soon. If that's hate then that's what they've been taught. I'd hazard a guess and say it's probably more likely a case of self preservation which is innate in most human beings. Either way it's heart wrenching no matter which way you look at it. Arguing about it on a stupid website doesn't help and it's definitely not going to stop it happening. The other pictures are just stupid set ups and the parents are simply brainless to think anything like that could be funny. What morons... __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

08-11-2006, 02:26 AM	#2
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I think what the children are being taught is fear. The hate that just naturally follows the fear, doesn't have to be taught. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-11-2006, 06:44 AM	#4
tjauh Writer of Writings Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 14	Check this out ... Check this out ... http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=1...ghlight=beirut

08-11-2006, 07:07 AM	#5
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Post an opinion tjauh. We all know that most of the picks out of Lebanon are real. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

08-11-2006, 06:50 PM	#6
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	tjauh has an agenda, not an opinion. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

08-12-2006, 10:38 PM	#7
JayMcGee Cardigan-wearing man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Much Binding In The Marsh Posts: 1,082	Indeed. If it's moving. it's Hezbollah fighters re-deploying.. If it's not moving, it's Hezbollah fighters digging in... send in the clowns^h^h^h^h^h^h^h bombers __________________ I like wearing cardigans...... my current favourite is an orange cable-knit with real leatherette buttons.

08-12-2006, 10:55 PM	#8
JayMcGee Cardigan-wearing man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Much Binding In The Marsh Posts: 1,082	and you're comfortable with this? __________________ I like wearing cardigans...... my current favourite is an orange cable-knit with real leatherette buttons.

08-12-2006, 11:11 PM	#9
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	Sure. These people had no problem with Hezbollah killing Israelies, they gave them legitimate status and became complicit in the party's actions. If Hezbollah was ruling the nation under martial law and the Lebanese were protesting the terrorist attacks against Israel, then it would be inappropriate to involve them. __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

08-13-2006, 01:23 AM	#12
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	As a maint Man said recently " Fuck-em and feed em fish heads !!!!! Those stupid bastardes have been killin each other off for centerurys , and even if we can take ALL their weapons away from them they will be killing each other off with rocks and sticks !!!!!!!" __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

08-13-2006, 02:13 AM	#13
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	There's a war going on over there. People die in wars...always. Remember when the Marines rolled into Iraq....we killed a whole bunch of Marines by mistake....2nd company if I remember correctly. Occam's Razor.... Never blame an evil plan when plain snafu is likely. C'mon Zippy, let us know how you feel about Arabs. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-13-2006, 02:24 AM	#14
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	Fuck-em !!!!!!!! " Fuck-em and feed em fish heads !!!!! Those stupid bastardes have been killin each other off for centerurys , and even if we can take ALL their weapons away from them they will be killing each other off with rocks and sticks !!!!!!!" Same shit different dialect !!!! It is as STUPID as if the Cathlics and the Babtist were killing each other off over their own spin on religion !!! There IS a God , weather his ( or Her ) name in Jesus , Allah , Budda , or Oden !!! They NEED to understand that every body sees things differently , but it it ALL the same when you break it down to the BASICS !!!!!! __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner Last edited by zippyt; 08-13-2006 at 02:31 AM.

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