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Does anyone know how many people are killed in car accidents or from smoking each year in this country alone? Perhaps tw could provide us with that fact. I'm willing to bet it is around 50,000 per year. How bout smoking - 440,000 deaths per year - JUST IN AMERICA! That is exponentially more deaths than all lives lost due to the war in Iraq. http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/ If we put the number of deaths from the situation in Iraq into perspective, I believe we may have a different outlook. The media seems to barrage us with "Another death in Iraq" every day and makes it seem much worse than it really is - relatively speaking. Sorry I put actual facts and figures in here, but I am growing very tired of those spouting misinformation as fact. Not anyone specifically here, especially not DanaC, just in general - the media mostly. Last edited by yesman065; 11-30-2006 at 02:18 PM. |
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Amazing is the Vietnam deja vue from right wing extremists. Since more people are killed in cars, then we should have no qualms about wasting American soldiers in a war that cannot be won? Why do right wing extremists so hate the American soldier as to advocate that political lie again? I tire of righteous anti-American extremists only doing what previous liars did to my generation in Vietnam. Shame on you Yesman065 for being so hateful of all Americans - especially American soldiers - as to speculate without bothering to first learn facts and numbers. Shame on you for lying that Saddam killed more. Shame on you for doing what others with your anti-American attitude did to justify four dead in Ohio. Meanwhile Saddam killed about 55 per every day for 10 years. Iraqi civilian deaths only from torture and other violent deaths (dead bodies found abandon in the streets) is now somewhere between 80 and 120 Iraqis per day. Yesman065 calls this moral? Then he also ignores thousands more dead from sewage in the streets, contaminated drinking water, no electricity, medicine shortages, and even repeated use of the same syringes. Clearly America did not create all this. Only Iraqis can be blamed for this. After all, we have wisdom from Yesman065 - who cannot be bothered to even learn numbers. That is 80 to 120 deaths from violence and hundreds more per day from various unsanitary living conditions, unknown deaths in rural battles and air attacks, and .... well America has created far more deaths than Saddam did. Once we eliminate Yesman065 radical extremism and instead consult responsible sources (who use science), then Iraqi death rates created by "Mission Accomplished" is something around half a million. Eliminate the myths and lies from Yesman065's beloved Limbaugh and America is the bigger Satan. Above numbers do not mention millions of Iraqi who have now left Iraq out of fear and who are living in poverty as refugees in other nations. Yes, that number is single digit millions from a country that Rumsfeld (and others here) for years have insisted is safer. Clearly they are in poverty only because it is all their fault. Makes one wonder if it was god who chose George Jr to be president ... or the devil. We know Yesman065 approves. Shame on Yesman065 for so hating American troops as to speculate, claim that as knowledge, and not even know the numbers. Identified is a greater threat to America – just like those anti-Americans in 1970 who also so hated American troops as to ‘stay the course’; insisting that troops are expendable because more are killed on highways. Yesman065 – only the enemy of every American soldier would post as you just have. You even have the nerve to justify American deaths by citing the highway death rate - as those anti-Americans also did during Vietnam. But again we have a Vietnam deja vue. Yesman065 doing what so many did 30+ years ago to hate the American soldier. Meanwhile, using Yesman065 logic - since more were dying on American highways that in Iraq, then Saddam really was not a bad guy. Amazing how Yesman065 can speculate because his political agenda somehow sanctifies him. Last edited by tw; 11-30-2006 at 07:49 PM. |
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We need to get the fuck out of everywhere.
Hell, it would solve a lot of our issues as an added-extra-plus too... our being on holy land is a lot of our problem with the stupid part of the Muslim population. |
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rkzenrage and 9th Engineer you both make valid points, yet I was not trying to justify the reasoning behind going to Iraq. It was an attempt to show that the number of casualties is not as great as the media makes it out to be.
tw - I am nothing like Rush Limbaugh and I am not a republican. So as usual, your statements are way off. Again, It is you making assumptions here, not I. I love this country more than my own life and if you truly knew anything about me that would be blatently honest. You however appear to want to complain, pass judgement and criticize. YOU are an embarrassment to this country, your attitude is almost as bad as your hate & ignorance. Last edited by yesman065; 12-01-2006 at 07:35 AM. |
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The number of casualties are FAR worse than the media shows.
They, the media or the military, do not count those wounded in-country who die later from their injuries in Germany, in transport or the US as a casualty of war (which is STUPID, there is no other word). |
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You have posted classic contempt for the American soldier. Shame on you for being so anti-American as to spout George Jr lies and to justify the death of American soldiers using highway death numbers. Your contempt may be attributed to blindly believing political liars; unable to separate speculation and political spin from reality. Naivety would then explain why you have posted such contempt of American soldiers and why you preach a 'big dic' solution. We know the death rates in Iraq are that high - somewhere in the neighborhood of one half million. But then Yesman065 who justified soldier deaths using highway statistics now magically knows those numbers cannot be known? Apparently Yesman065 also believes Saddam had a hand in 11 September. Scary is that Yesman065 is so politically active when he does not first do simple things such as post supporting facts for his decrees. Same contrast was observed between the bourgeois and intellectual verses the brown shirts in 1930s Germany. The brown shirts were also very active - and blindly believed what they were told by their political extremist handlers. Being active does not mean being smart or informed. Being active and totally ignorant is why we have this lie called "Mission Accomplished" and why bin Laden roams free. When does Yesman065 repeatedly demand that we go after bin Laden? This always results in silence from those who listen and believe Limbaugh rhetoric. Yes, the brown shirts also loved Germany which was sufficient to justify their actions? That is sufficient to justify Yesman065's comments? Yesman065 has posted classic contempt for the American soldier and does not even apologize for his fubar. Now he hide behind "I love this country". If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, then it also need not apologize? Last edited by tw; 12-01-2006 at 01:09 PM. |
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Notice the latest Yesman065 reply. Deny and accuse. Deny and accuse. Yesman065 still does not post an apology for justifying American troop deaths using highway statistics. Deny and accuse without facts and numbers. That brown shirt tactic is also a characteristic of Limbaugh logic. Even Limbaugh would backhand apologize for his attacks on Michael J Fox. Yesman065 still will not post an apology to America and the troops ... because is walks like a duck and talks like a duck... |
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