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Trilby · 05-06-2011, 04:29 PM

doesn't matter.

Jill is gone.

footfootfoot · 05-06-2011, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna

doesn't matter.

Jill is gone.

Yeah, she's a real hep cat, daddy-o.

Flint · 05-06-2011, 04:32 PM

People are free to make their own decisions.

Flint · 05-06-2011, 04:37 PM

I disagree, and I stand by everything I've posted. It isn't contradictory, and I don't need to defend it because it is self-explanatory. The end.

BigV · 05-06-2011, 04:55 PM

I disagree, and I stand by everything I've posted. It isn't contradictory, and I don't need to defend it because it is self explanatory. The end.

See? Works for *EVERYBODY*, but that is how learning stops. If you end your side of the discussion, then I can't learn anything more about you or your thought process. What you've written is *not* self explanatory, a person's words need the actual person to explain them.

If you say A, and I say, hm.. I don't see it. And you just leave it there, tha's fine, cool. My (apparently incorrect) understanding will remain similarly unchanged. But I'll wonder what was the purpose of your remarks. Were you trying to inform me, amuse me, persuade me? Were you just thinking out loud with none of these intentions? I don't know. I'm just left with what I've got.

and I've got an image of what I've already said, plus one of you with a closed mind.

communication is the sending and receiving of information. Lots of sending here, but a lamentable lack of receiving.

Flint · 05-06-2011, 05:06 PM

Read the post again and imagine that it is about what I said it is about. I meant exactly what I said.

Quote:

…just so happen to…you just happen to have heard about it…just, coincidentally (because nobody really plans what's in the news, do they?) just coincidentally happened to enter into your consciousness...you chose to know about this, right?…

BigV · 05-06-2011, 05:26 PM

right.

I did read all of that, more than once. In every reading, the subject (largely omitted in your quoting) is "you", Jill, since you were addressing her. The object was her understanding, her knowledge and the provenance of that knowledge.

Your point is made obliquely at best and the most direct reference to the insignificance of this item and its news-un-worthiness is in the negative "...nobody does plan..do they?". the quote you show might have been what you wrote when you were thinking "Man, this is such a non-issue, why all the fuss in the first place?", but what came out was very different.

Flint · 05-06-2011, 06:31 PM

I haven’t said anything (not one single thing!) about how someone interprets a news story, or their knowledge thereof. Double-check if you like.

The manipulation I have been referring to is the fact that this story was on the news to begin with. That has, in fact, been stated in every sentence of every post that I have made. You can choose to remain purposefully obtuse, if you like. Again, people are free to make their own decisions.

DanaC · 05-06-2011, 06:40 PM

By that logic we shouldn't discuss anything that has been in the news.

BigV · 05-06-2011, 06:42 PM

Glad you're sticking with me Flint. Because only *now* do I understand (my third understanding) of your point. You're point is "... (something/someone/all of us.... um??) is being manipulated by the existence of a story in the media.

You've been much, much clearer in the past. The fucking *math* question was clearer than this.

Aliantha · 05-06-2011, 06:46 PM

So should we all say how clever you are because you've said what we all knew in the first place anyway Flint? We've had massive discussions on this board about the news is reported differently depending on the sources' political affiliations.

My question to you is this. Why would you choose this particular thread to get in an extra couple of digs at Jill when there are a hundred other threads and posters to which you could have posted the same thing?

Clearly jill expressed why she was upset with the content of the article. I personally give her enough credit to realize that it may not have been reported and then she may never have known. I suspect that it's going to be all over the news now anyway though, so really, what's your point Flint?

Flint · 05-06-2011, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha

So should we all...

No, you should all fuck off.

Except BigV.

Aliantha · 05-06-2011, 06:52 PM

lol...sorry. No can do.

Again, I know what your point was, but I'd still like to know why you decided to have a go at Jill with it when there were others who were less upset about a previous confrontation who you could have bothered with it.

Flint · 05-06-2011, 06:54 PM

I read a post and replied to it. That is all.

I don't know who or what you're talking about in regards to a "previous confrontation" and I truly, deeply, do not care. On principle.

Aliantha · 05-06-2011, 06:55 PM

Well I guess we should expect to see the same post quite a few more times then?

05-06-2011, 04:29 PM	#1
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	doesn't matter. Jill is gone. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

05-06-2011, 04:32 PM	#3
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	People are free to make their own decisions. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

05-06-2011, 04:37 PM	#4
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	I disagree, and I stand by everything I've posted. It isn't contradictory, and I don't need to defend it because it is self-explanatory. The end. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

05-06-2011, 04:55 PM	#5
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	I disagree, and I stand by everything I've posted. It isn't contradictory, and I don't need to defend it because it is self explanatory. The end. See? Works for EVERYBODY, but that is how learning stops. If you end your side of the discussion, then I can't learn anything more about you or your thought process. What you've written is not self explanatory, a person's words need the actual person to explain them. If you say A, and I say, hm.. I don't see it. And you just leave it there, tha's fine, cool. My (apparently incorrect) understanding will remain similarly unchanged. But I'll wonder what was the purpose of your remarks. Were you trying to inform me, amuse me, persuade me? Were you just thinking out loud with none of these intentions? I don't know. I'm just left with what I've got. and I've got an image of what I've already said, plus one of you with a closed mind. communication is the sending and receiving of information. Lots of sending here, but a lamentable lack of receiving. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

05-06-2011, 05:26 PM	#7
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	right. I did read all of that, more than once. In every reading, the subject (largely omitted in your quoting) is "you", Jill, since you were addressing her. The object was her understanding, her knowledge and the provenance of that knowledge. Your point is made obliquely at best and the most direct reference to the insignificance of this item and its news-un-worthiness is in the negative "...nobody does plan..do they?". the quote you show might have been what you wrote when you were thinking "Man, this is such a non-issue, why all the fuss in the first place?", but what came out was very different. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

05-06-2011, 06:31 PM	#8
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	I haven’t said anything (not one single thing!) about how someone interprets a news story, or their knowledge thereof. Double-check if you like. The manipulation I have been referring to is the fact that this story was on the news to begin with. That has, in fact, been stated in every sentence of every post that I have made. You can choose to remain purposefully obtuse, if you like. Again, people are free to make their own decisions. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio** Last edited by Flint; 05-06-2011 at 06:42 PM.

05-06-2011, 06:42 PM	#10
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Glad you're sticking with me Flint. Because only now do I understand (my third understanding) of your point. You're point is "... (something/someone/all of us.... um??) is being manipulated by the existence of a story in the media. You've been much, much clearer in the past. The fucking math question was clearer than this. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

05-06-2011, 06:46 PM	#11
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	So should we all say how clever you are because you've said what we all knew in the first place anyway Flint? We've had massive discussions on this board about the news is reported differently depending on the sources' political affiliations. My question to you is this. Why would you choose this particular thread to get in an extra couple of digs at Jill when there are a hundred other threads and posters to which you could have posted the same thing? Clearly jill expressed why she was upset with the content of the article. I personally give her enough credit to realize that it may not have been reported and then she may never have known. I suspect that it's going to be all over the news now anyway though, so really, what's your point Flint? __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

05-06-2011, 06:52 PM	#13
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	lol...sorry. No can do. Again, I know what your point was, but I'd still like to know why you decided to have a go at Jill with it when there were others who were less upset about a previous confrontation who you could have bothered with it. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

05-06-2011, 06:54 PM	#14
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	I read a post and replied to it. That is all. I don't know who or what you're talking about in regards to a "previous confrontation" and I truly, deeply, do not care. On principle. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

05-06-2011, 06:55 PM	#15
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Well I guess we should expect to see the same post quite a few more times then? __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

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