SCOTUS Grants Guantanamo Prisoners Habeas Corpus - Page 10

Ibby · 06-23-2008, 10:12 PM

Nobody has answered this yet.

If the people at Gitmo are not protected by the constitution 'cuz they arent citizens
and arent protected by the geneva convention cause they arent soldiers

then what law ARE they protected under? none?
thats bull.

classicman · 06-24-2008, 08:19 AM

I'm just asking here, but still...

If these people at Guantanamo were all innocent, then why did we put them there??? and tortured them so we could???? What was the point of it again?? Just for fun? For what?

Clodfobble · 06-24-2008, 09:01 AM

Fear.

classicman · 06-24-2008, 10:31 AM

Oh BS - so we round up a bunch of nobodies and torture them because we are afraid? Sorry, I think not. There had to be some reason - probably not a good one, if there is one, but still...

xoxoxoBruce · 06-24-2008, 10:37 AM

Not suffer fear, instill fear.

Troubleshooter · 06-29-2008, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman

Oh BS - so we round up a bunch of nobodies and torture them because we are afraid? Sorry, I think not. There had to be some reason - probably not a good one, if there is one, but still...

We weren't the only ones doing the rounding up.

When you offer a reward or considerations for the capture of "terrorists" a lot of people get turned into terrorists overnight.

Neighbor down the street, the one with the loud goats? Yeah, he's a terrorist, damn those goats of his...

deadbeater · 06-24-2008, 08:45 PM

Ok let me ask a hypothetical. Let's say that president Barack Obama turned to Barack Mugabe and declared John McCain an 'illegal combatant', saying he discovered 'classified evidence' that McCain is a plant of the terrorist wing of the Vietnemese Comunist party. If Bush administration rules continued under president Obama, McCain has virtually no defense. His citizenship is stripped without due process, and he is sent to Guantanamo Bay with the rest, without a habeas corpus hearing. Would the pro-no due processers be happy then?

Or have it the other way around.

xoxoxoBruce · 06-24-2008, 10:53 PM

Sounds good to me.

lookout123 · 06-25-2008, 05:14 PM

Wouldn't work. McCain is white. and has money. and has already been tortured worse than they do at Gitmo. so he'd probably just sit around playing cards with the guards while he waits for his next campaign to start.

classicman · 06-25-2008, 07:57 PM

wait! I thought the American POW's weren't tortured.

xoxoxoBruce · 06-25-2008, 11:08 PM

POWs aren't.

TheMercenary · 06-29-2008, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman

wait! I thought the American POW's weren't tortured.

Stop!

DanaC · 07-04-2008, 06:25 PM

Would have been a damn sight easier to just adhere to the Geneva Convention and accept them as POWs.

classicman · 07-05-2008, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC

Would have been a damn sight easier to just adhere to the Geneva Convention and accept them as POWs.

Just send them all back to their "home countries."

TheMercenary · 07-05-2008, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman

Just send them all back to their "home countries."

second.

06-23-2008, 10:12 PM	#1
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	Nobody has answered this yet. If the people at Gitmo are not protected by the constitution 'cuz they arent citizens and arent protected by the geneva convention cause they arent soldiers then what law ARE they protected under? none? thats bull. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

06-24-2008, 08:19 AM	#2
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I'm just asking here, but still... If these people at Guantanamo were all innocent, then why did we put them there??? and tortured them so we could???? What was the point of it again?? Just for fun? For what? __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

06-24-2008, 10:31 AM	#4
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Oh BS - so we round up a bunch of nobodies and torture them because we are afraid? Sorry, I think not. There had to be some reason - probably not a good one, if there is one, but still... __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

06-24-2008, 10:37 AM	#5
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Not suffer fear, instill fear. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-24-2008, 10:53 PM	#8
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Sounds good to me. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-24-2008, 09:01 AM	#3
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Fear.

06-24-2008, 08:45 PM	#7
deadbeater Sir Post-A-Lot Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 439	Ok let me ask a hypothetical. Let's say that president Barack Obama turned to Barack Mugabe and declared John McCain an 'illegal combatant', saying he discovered 'classified evidence' that McCain is a plant of the terrorist wing of the Vietnemese Comunist party. If Bush administration rules continued under president Obama, McCain has virtually no defense. His citizenship is stripped without due process, and he is sent to Guantanamo Bay with the rest, without a habeas corpus hearing. Would the pro-no due processers be happy then? Or have it the other way around.

06-25-2008, 05:14 PM	#9
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	Wouldn't work. McCain is white. and has money. and has already been tortured worse than they do at Gitmo. so he'd probably just sit around playing cards with the guards while he waits for his next campaign to start. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

06-25-2008, 07:57 PM	#10
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	wait! I thought the American POW's weren't tortured. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

06-25-2008, 11:08 PM	#11
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	POWs aren't. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

07-04-2008, 06:25 PM	#13
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Would have been a damn sight easier to just adhere to the Geneva Convention and accept them as POWs.

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