When it becomes Hillary v McCain - Page 10

glatt · 06-11-2008, 03:26 PM

Anyone who makes more than twice what I make is rich. The exact dollar amount will change as my income changes.

Edit: I forgot this:

lookout123 · 06-11-2008, 03:30 PM

fair enough. as long as i get to use the same measurement.

seriously though, that is the problem with picking dollar amounts and attaching tags to them. it is completely subjective. When I was in the military the idea of making what a colonel does made my mouth water. Now I'd be scrambling trying to figure out how to stay afloat. Is someone earning a colonel's wage rich or poor? It all depends on where you are standing.

TheMercenary · 06-11-2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt

Anyone who makes more than twice what I make is rich. The exact dollar amount will change as my income changes.

Edit: I forgot this:

No, what they have is more disposable income than you and more likely than not, more bills, a higher standard of living, and the ability to have more choices in life. But yea, they are not rich.

Reminds me of a tree full of monkeys

Everyone at the top looks down at nothing but smiling faces of other monkeys.

Everyone at the bottom looks up and sees nothing but a bunch of assholes.

Sucks to be on the bottom. You get nothing but shit from the top. But hey, no one says you can't sacrifice, bite, scrape, and jockey for a better position in the tree. The only thing holding you back is yourself.

Rock on monkey.

kerosene · 06-11-2008, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

bullshit. $100,000 does NOT make one rich or even "fairly rich". It makes them someone who probably busts there ass to provide for their family just like you do. They've just chosen a field that pays better.

Agreed. We don't make six figures, but if we did, we certainly wouldn't be swimming a la scrooge mcduck. We would probably get caught up on some of our bills, though.

TheMercenary · 06-11-2008, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

bullshit. $100,000 does NOT make one rich or even "fairly rich". It makes them someone who probably busts there ass to provide for their family just like you do. They've just chosen a field that pays better.

UMMMMMMMmmmmmmm.....

Fucking A.

On the same note, so people who make early and calculated decisions about life goals and plans and then see them through to positive results should be penalized because we busted our asses and went to 3 or 4 or 10 years of school after a 4 year college degree should be paying for those who did not?

Yea, "Kiss my ass" floats to the top of that line of thinking rather quickly.

TheMercenary · 06-11-2008, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by headsplice

I'm pretty sure median income (per household) in the US hovers just under $50000/year. Anyone making six figures is fairly rich.

Bull shit.

Please to share what you have done to earn your $50000 a year.

And then explain to us why the rest of the world who makes more than you should pay for your happy ass to do anything? "I am all ears."

Radar · 06-09-2008, 01:08 PM

They could be wealthy now and rich later, or rich now and middle-class later. During the one or two years they are making that kind of money, they are rich or wealthy as the case may be. When they stop making that kind of money, they no longer qualify.

classicman · 06-11-2008, 10:09 PM

Median household income was $46,326 in 2005, up 1.1 percent from 2004 after adjusting for inflation. This is the first annual increase in real median household income since 1999. Since 1967, the first year for which household income statistics are available, real median household income was up 30.9 percent

Clodfobble · 06-11-2008, 10:19 PM

During the 2004 election, the line in the sand that Kerry had drawn for his tax-the-rich plan was $250,000 a year. Though obviously the taxation plan itself met with much criticism, the public seemed to swallow the actual number as a reasonable definition of rich at the time.

lookout123 · 06-11-2008, 10:24 PM

that's because the public swallows the political hacks' strategy of class warfare hook, line, and sinker. show me the person who thinks anyone making $100/200/300K per year deserves to be taxed more and I'll show you someone who doesn't have the belief that they could ever earn that much. Or someone so disgustingly wealthy that they pay someone hundreds of thousands to ensure they don't pay taxes anyway...

TheMercenary · 06-12-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

that's because the public swallows the political hacks' strategy of class warfare hook, line, and sinker. show me the person who thinks anyone making $100/200/300K per year deserves to be taxed more and I'll show you someone who doesn't have the belief that they could ever earn that much. Or someone so disgustingly wealthy that they pay someone hundreds of thousands to ensure they don't pay taxes anyway...

I assure you even 300k is far from disgustingly wealthy.

deadbeater · 06-16-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I assure you even 300k is far from disgustingly wealthy.

To you, 30 billion euros is not disgustingly wealthy.

TheMercenary · 06-17-2008, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by deadbeater

To you, 30 billion euros is not disgustingly wealthy.

And you would know this how? I accept that our society is economically stratified. It can't be anything else, it does not matter how little you make.

Radar · 06-11-2008, 11:10 PM

$500k in Los Angeles is like $150k anywhere else in America...with the possible exception of New York City.

TheMercenary · 06-12-2008, 11:15 AM

Lets talk weath. I am starting a new thread in current events. I would appreciate it if you all came over and commented in an effort to refocus the discussion and take advantage of an interesting bit of thread drift.

06-11-2008, 03:30 PM	#2
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	fair enough. as long as i get to use the same measurement. seriously though, that is the problem with picking dollar amounts and attaching tags to them. it is completely subjective. When I was in the military the idea of making what a colonel does made my mouth water. Now I'd be scrambling trying to figure out how to stay afloat. Is someone earning a colonel's wage rich or poor? It all depends on where you are standing. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

06-09-2008, 01:08 PM	#7
Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	They could be wealthy now and rich later, or rich now and middle-class later. During the one or two years they are making that kind of money, they are rich or wealthy as the case may be. When they stop making that kind of money, they no longer qualify. __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin

06-11-2008, 10:09 PM	#8
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Median household income was $46,326 in 2005, up 1.1 percent from 2004 after adjusting for inflation. This is the first annual increase in real median household income since 1999. Since 1967, the first year for which household income statistics are available, real median household income was up 30.9 percent __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

06-11-2008, 10:24 PM	#10
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	that's because the public swallows the political hacks' strategy of class warfare hook, line, and sinker. show me the person who thinks anyone making $100/200/300K per year deserves to be taxed more and I'll show you someone who doesn't have the belief that they could ever earn that much. Or someone so disgustingly wealthy that they pay someone hundreds of thousands to ensure they don't pay taxes anyway... __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

06-11-2008, 11:10 PM	#14
Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	$500k in Los Angeles is like $150k anywhere else in America...with the possible exception of New York City. __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin

06-11-2008, 03:26 PM	#1
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Anyone who makes more than twice what I make is rich. The exact dollar amount will change as my income changes. Edit: I forgot this:

06-11-2008, 10:19 PM	#9
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	During the 2004 election, the line in the sand that Kerry had drawn for his tax-the-rich plan was $250,000 a year. Though obviously the taxation plan itself met with much criticism, the public seemed to swallow the actual number as a reasonable definition of rich at the time.

06-12-2008, 11:15 AM	#15
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Lets talk weath. I am starting a new thread in current events. I would appreciate it if you all came over and commented in an effort to refocus the discussion and take advantage of an interesting bit of thread drift. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

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