WTF Comcast

[tw]

IEEE stated that many Gulf States and Comcast bought a software package to subvert Skype packets. Also stated technically what that sofware does. Gulf states, in particular wanted this software because international phone calls were a major revenue source. Skype calls (and those from American call centers) were severely reducing tax revenues.

Comcast denied buying that software.

U.S. broadband-cable companies are considered information services, which by law gives them the right to block VoIP calls. Comcast Corp., in Philadelphia, the country's largest cable company, is already a Narus customer;

UT's argument was

YES, tw, my argument is that they probably weren't doing it because nobody has any indication that they were.

Then the FCC accused Comcast of subverting Skype packets. They bought the software to do it. Then did it. Somehow that was debunked?

UT knows that is wrong by ignoring what both the IEEE and FCC said. George Jr also admitted Saddam did not have those WMDs. UT insisted they must exist even after George Jr admitted they did not. It goes to how UT's mind works.

Is subverting VoIP traffic legal? That is part of the contraversy, still unresolved, if VoIP is an “information service” or a “telecommunications service” (data transporter). A major decision in 2010 put a kink into that resolution.

UT: if you know Comcast did not subvert Skype packets, then explain why both he IEEE and FCC said they bought the software and were doing it. Somehow working in call center means you know more than the FCC and IEEE? Understand what is an information service vs. a telecommuniation service?

BTW I am still awaiting these citations.

[Undertoad]

The IEEE article said no such thing if one parses it correctly.

Comcast Corp., in Philadelphia, the country's largest cable company, is already a Narus customer; Thomas declined to say whether Comcast uses the VoIP-blocking capabilities.

This quote tells you they were already a customer of Narus, "a company focused on telecommunications billing and customer market intelligence" (Wiki). But it doesn't say they bought the VoIP blocking product, if one parses it correctly.

VoIP-blocking was not a major product for Narus. It's just something they thought there might be a need for. There wasn't. The company died. VoIP blocking doesn't even make their Wikipedia entry.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

The IEEE article said no such thing if one parses it correctly.

And then the FCC accused Comcast of subverting Skype (and other) packets.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

VoIP-blocking was not a major product for Narus.

Narus also had another product. It was a main supplier to AT&T for software to spy on internet traffic for the NSA.

From AT&T’s Implementation of NSA Spying

Narus is a 7-year-old company which, because of its particular niche, appeals not only to businessmen (it is backed by AT&T, JP Morgan and Intel, among others) but also to police, military and intelligence officials. Last November 13-14, for instance, Narus was the “Lead Sponsor” for a technical conference held in McLean, Virginia, titled “Intelligence Support Systems for Lawful Interception and Internet Surveillance.”

All this centers on what Comcast needs to subvert net neutrality. The controversy remains unresolved: telecommunication provider (data transporter) verses information provider. Permitted to subvert packets went right to the heart of Netflix survival.

[tw]

Comcast Corp. v. FCC

In 2007, several subscribers of Comcast high-speed Internet discovered that Comcast was interfering with their use of peer-to-peer networking applications.

But this was not happening according to ...

[Undertoad]

Yeah Sico has been on super thin ice with me for the last 10 years but I keep giving him second chances. Fuckin guy prodding me all the time

[John Sellers]

Mbps means Megabits per second.

Source: http://www.attinternetservice.com/re.../mbps-vs-mbps/

Didn't you notice I posted 1.5bps, NOT 1.5MBps?

[John Sellers]

What are your results at speedtest.net?

I just checked my speed, and I got:



Remember, Mb/s (a.k.a Mbps) = Megabits per second.

I'm willing to bet that your result will also be in Mb/s, not MB/s.

[Undertoad]

It is megabits.

But don't fret. This is one of those things they could never have predicted, that everyone in the goddamn world would need to know this. There's not enough difference between the words bit and byte, and this is what happens when jargon in a 1950s lab escapes to the real world.

[John Sellers]

Originally Posted by glatt

And the phone service is added to that $44? What is the total you write on the check for DSL and all phone charges?

My total bill on average is around 117 dollars a month, which includes things like taxes, the AT&T Complete Choice plan, and an inside wire maintenance plan.

BTW, who writes checks anymore? I pay online.

Originally Posted by Undertoad

It is megabits.

But don't fret. This is one of those things they could never have predicted, that everyone in the goddamn world would need to know this. There's not enough difference between the words bit and byte, and this is what happens when jargon in a 1950s lab escapes to the real world.

Like.

[glatt]

That's what I'm talking about. I feel badly for you that you have to pay more than me for a small fraction of the speed I get simply because of where you live. But now I regret bringing it up because there is little you can do about it, and pointing it out is cruel of me.

[John Sellers]

I don't see any reason for you to feel bad. I'm ok with it, as long as my RSDI checks keep coming.

Also , it might have something to do with the fact that Mississippi's economic status is the worst in the USA, but I'm not sure.

[John Sellers]

Bruce, I'm still curious to see what your Speedtest results are.

[fargon]

Our phone bill including 3.0 MB DSL is $95.00 and it is plenty fast enough for us and the occational guest. And it almost never goes out.

[Gravdigr]