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Old 06-22-2016, 11:26 AM   #1
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Old 06-22-2016, 11:19 AM   #2
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All I know is that the EU has too many regulations that mention the word pillow!
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Old 06-22-2016, 11:25 AM   #3
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A steady trickle of needy underclass could break Socialism once the masses realize their cut is being taken... how quickly things are changing



The US has managed it all along as a wholly immigrant nation; the immigrants become successful in their second and third generations, and assimilate, so they're productive and no longer needy. This will happen in Britain too, if the economy and the people accept this fate.

The tweaker said this about his illegal Mexican: "His kid went to American school, now he's an American."
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Old 06-22-2016, 11:52 AM   #4
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There'd an element of that to British society as well UT. Some of the biggest voices against the current immigrants are the children and grandchildren of yesterday's immigrants. Complaining about immigration is practically a national characteristic.
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Old 06-22-2016, 12:34 PM   #5
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But they were mostly immigrants from the empire. They had already been schooled to accept British superiority and prepared to adjust their lives to the British norm as best they could. They were not coming in demanding the locals bend to their culture, adjust to their aspirations, accept them on their terms.
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Old 06-22-2016, 05:54 PM   #6
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Not one major business group or financial organization approves of Brexit. If facts are that overwhelming, then why do so many want Brexit? A perfect example. Many adults still think like children (for the same reason so many also knew Saddam had WMDs). If thinking logically, then Brexit is clearly undesirable.

Why do so many want Brexit? Because brainwashing works on those who make decisions based only using emotions. Those are adults who still think like children.

Again, not one valid fact justifies or says Brexit is desirable or good. Virtually every major business and finance organization says Brexit is bad. How many bothered to even learn that fact before making a conclusion?

That is a difference between a moderate and an extremist (active or potential). Moderates learn facts with numbers before making a conclusion. Extremists entertain their emotions - somehow know immediately what to believe. Brexit demonstrates how many adults are still children.
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Old 06-22-2016, 05:56 PM   #7
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And if we know anything, we know those folks can absolutely be trusted and want only what is best for all.

(he said half joking)
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Old 06-22-2016, 05:58 PM   #8
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Business groups and financial organizations are usually run by top management...
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Old 06-22-2016, 06:04 PM   #9
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Business groups and financial organizations are usually run by top management...
Some top management is extremely patriotic. They innovate. They empower their workers. Their desire for better products is, for example, why the American economy is so robust and still #1. Those should not be confused with people such as Donald Trump, Rick Wagoner, Carly Fiorina, Dick Cheney, Martin Shkreli, or George Jr whose only interests were self servicing and classic anti-humaity and anti-American. Whose actions did so much harm to America.

And still, not one honest and comprehensive fact (with perspective) recommends Brexit. Vote should be that one sided if enough adults are adult.
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Old 06-22-2016, 06:39 PM   #10
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Brexit: capable of turning usually humorful and interesting facebook friends into utter wankers.
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Old 06-22-2016, 06:46 PM   #11
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To my colonial eye, Brexit is not about business. It is about nationalism vs globalism. The EU is a dictatorship, pure and simple. I admit, I have my hands full following our own troubles and have not spared much time for our UK allies' troubles, yet I do kind of read things. Like this article, by a British citizen who is in a better position to know what is happening there. I believe him, and Boris Johnson, former mayor of London. I have listened to Boris make his case and I think he is right. Leave the EU and let it fall apart. The UK is not the only country that is getting tired of being dictated to by Brussels. Germany and France, among others, are about ready to leave and are probably only waiting to see what happens to the UK first. If the sky doesn't fall in on the Brits, they will likely follow soon after.

In my humble opinion, anything that monkey wrenches globalism is a good thing.
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Old 06-23-2016, 03:06 AM   #12
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That makes it sound like they're an external power dictating to us. We are part of that power. Brussels is us and we are Brussels.

Of all the EU nations we have less to gripe about in terms of dictatorship than any. We have negotiated so many opt outs, the rest of the EU has bent over backwards to accommodate Britain's individualism. We are not even a member of the eurozone - we kept our own currency.

As for globalisation - Boris is a neo-con. He wants to free up the British elite to be part of a whole different kind of globalisation. Free from EU and its insistence that things like bankers' bonuses should have some sort of limit or that workers' rights should have some sort of protection.
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Old 06-23-2016, 10:37 PM   #13
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looks like exit at this hour, exit leading by 750k votes
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Old 06-24-2016, 06:31 AM   #14
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Old 06-24-2016, 10:00 AM   #15
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The Markets don't like the Brexit
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